Saturday Morning General Conference Open Thread

October 6, 2007 | 133 comments
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As is tradition here at Times and Seasons, please feel free to post your comments, thoughts, insights and inspirations regarding the Saturday morning session of General Conference here.

133 Responses to Saturday Morning General Conference Open Thread

  1. Brian D. on October 6, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Henry B. Eyring!!!

  2. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 12:10 pm

    Holland? No, Eyring. Didn’t see that coming.

  3. Brian D. on October 6, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    Quentin L. Cook!!!

  4. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 12:12 pm

    Cook. didn’t see that one, either.

  5. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 12:12 pm

    So . . . Elder Eyring in the First Presidency.

  6. Nicole on October 6, 2007 at 12:13 pm

    I’ve had the chance to work with Elder Eyring on a project and he is just SUCH a nice guy. I’m glad it’s him.

  7. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 12:14 pm
  8. Brian D. on October 6, 2007 at 12:14 pm

    I am thrilled to see President Eyring called to the 1st Presidency. The Lord is truly in charge.

  9. Sheldon on October 6, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    It looks like Elder Cook was a lawyer like Pres. Faust was… is there like a “Lawyer Affirmative Action” program for the Twelve…?

  10. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    What was so funny?

  11. Ryan on October 6, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    Why didn’t the open thread start at the womens session?

    .Just kidding
    ..But seriously
    …No, I’m kidding
    ….Or am I?

  12. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    Why did everyone just laugh?

  13. Ryan on October 6, 2007 at 12:18 pm

    I love Eyring, as much as I was pulling for Holland, I so totally sustain Eyring.. what a stud.

  14. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 12:18 pm

    Ryan, I think most women listen/watch at a stake center because their stake RS plies them with goodies the hour before.

  15. Dividends on October 6, 2007 at 12:18 pm

    I think they were laughing because the choir stood up and then sat down again before standing up to give the brethern time to shuffle seats

  16. Tanya Spackman on October 6, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    I’m excited about Elder Eyring!

    I know nothing about Elder Cook, but I look forward to getting to know him as an apostle.

  17. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    Did part of the choir stand up before they were supposed to?

  18. Russell Arben Fox on October 6, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    Why didn’t the open thread start at the womens session?

    The same reason we don’t do open threads for the priesthood session: only the Big Four are considered Canon, and thus are deserving of Official Commentaries.

  19. Nate Oman on October 6, 2007 at 12:20 pm

    “…is there like a “Lawyer Affirmative Action” program for the Twelve…? ”

    No, it is just that God is a lawyer (see, e.g., Leviticus) and he likes servants who understand his lingo.

  20. Russell Arben Fox on October 6, 2007 at 12:22 pm

    God is a lawyer.

    The ultimate Public Defender, in fact.

  21. Ryan on October 6, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    Russell More like fishy commentaries, no? :)

    Nate, if God is a big-time lawyer, why does he drive a Honda?

    “I speak not of mine own Accord…”

  22. queuno on October 6, 2007 at 12:24 pm

    Nate -

    If God the Father is a lawyer, then who designed His Massively Parallel Global Operating System, capable of tracking prayers, actions, sins, blessings, and requests and coordinating, monitoring, and logging multi-agent interations? Is God really a computer scientist, or was that left to the Holy Ghost?

    And does the Lord have his own Sarbanes-Oxley program?

  23. queuno on October 6, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    interactions, not interations

  24. Behind the Infamous Veil on October 6, 2007 at 12:25 pm

    This is awesome…I am listening to this conference “from the ends of the world”–I’m in Saudi Arabia, and it’s 7:24 pm! I can hear it clear as day. Hi, everyone!

  25. Joseph D. Walch on October 6, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    San Antonio, TX

  26. Sheldon on October 6, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    I always thought of God more as a “judge” than as a public defender… and while here in the US judges tend to be lawyers first, that’s not true outside the US… I always thought of Jesus as the “public defender.” And Leviticus just might show that he’s a Legislator, which may or may not mean that he’s a lawyer… (although, as my civ pro professor always said, you can’t spit two inches in DC without hitting a lawyer).

  27. Copedi on October 6, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Elder Cook had some interesting things to say in this article.

  28. Joseph D. Walch on October 6, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    Marion G. Romney Baptized my wife’s Grandmother in a small coal villiage in Australia.

  29. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 12:35 pm

    I recognize this is not the point of Elder Packer’s talk, but is he, in a collateral sort of way, commenting on the Mormon folklore that every member of the Quorum has seen the Savior?

  30. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 12:35 pm

    I am really liking this talk from Pres. Packer so far. I’ve seen some scary evidence of GA-worship, and this is a great corrective.

  31. Nate Oman on October 6, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    ” does the Lord have his own Sarbanes-Oxley program”

    No, God hates Sarbanes-Oxley like every other right-thinking sentient being in existence.

  32. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 12:36 pm

    And doesn’t his last comment sort of confirm that? At least, isn’t that an argument to be made?

  33. Brian Litster on October 6, 2007 at 12:37 pm

    I also like this talk by President Packer, talking about the importance of all callings and the revelation each calling gets.

  34. Ardis Parshall on October 6, 2007 at 12:37 pm

    Kirby quoted in General Conference — cool.

  35. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Ardis, what was it?

  36. Behind the Infamous Veil on October 6, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    I liked this talk too. Picky, I know, but do we have to refer to couples as “Brother and Sister (man’s name)”?

  37. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Never mind. I think my feed is two minutes behind everyone else.

  38. Travis on October 6, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    I agree Julie. Great talk by President Packer. I would love him to unpack the idea more. It seems to me that there could be some interesting doctrinal underpinnings for the idea and I’d love to hear him outline these.

  39. Seth R. on October 6, 2007 at 12:41 pm

    Is anyone listening to Elder Packer’s comments about prophetic inspiration and testimony being no stronger than the ordinary member’s?

    That’s a big deal.

  40. Dividends on October 6, 2007 at 12:42 pm

    Ouch Bro Edgely – I think I might move off that street

  41. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 12:42 pm

    Well, as for me and my house, we’re going to assume that Pres. Packer stated that he is qualified for his current calling, not due to some special, earth-shattering spiritual manifestation, but rather by virtue of the simple testimony he has–the same one he had when called as an assistant to the Quorum.

  42. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 12:42 pm

    Not stronger, but “different.”

  43. Behind the Infamous Veil on October 6, 2007 at 12:42 pm

    Lots of name-dropping in this talk…

  44. Ben on October 6, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    THe lord’s church is fully adequate and capable of meeting emotional needs? Did I see that right?

  45. Tom on October 6, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    The principles put forth by President Packer are in large part the reason that the male-only priesthood doesn’t bother me much.

  46. Seth R. on October 6, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    Was Elder Packer suggesting the “fake it till you make it” principle? It sounded vaguely similar.

  47. Dividends on October 6, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    “Enduring Together – what happens to one happens to all” – like that

  48. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 12:47 pm

    Is Mary Cook Quentin Cook’s wife?

    He married a Mary, http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/w/o/wol3/cookql1.htm

  49. Behind the Infamous Veil on October 6, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    um, Tom? are you a male priesthood holder?

  50. Ryan on October 6, 2007 at 12:49 pm

    I love this talk and just to add another dimension: My wife and I were recently on the receiving end of charitable service from our ward, not because we suffered tragedy but because we just had our first child.

  51. mrs on October 6, 2007 at 12:52 pm

    Totally random, but isn’t Quentin L. Cook also the birthname of the British electronica musician Fatboy Slim? (Think that music video with Christopher Walken dancing solo).

  52. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 12:53 pm

    She is not married to Elder Cook

  53. Behind the Infamous Veil on October 6, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    If our family isn’t all we want it to be it is our responsibility to break the cycle–Amen!

  54. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    mrs- It’s true! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatboy_slim

    and why haven’t they ever been seen together in public? :)

  55. mrs on October 6, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    Cook is 67, which is interesting — usually apostles are a little younger. The last one called over 65 (and the only other one of the currently serving apostles) was Wirthlin.

  56. Ryan on October 6, 2007 at 12:57 pm

    “Riches were not a part of my childhood”

    Amen, Brother!!

  57. Laura on October 6, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    What temple was that that was pictured?

  58. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 1:01 pm

    Elder Cook used to be the executive director of the missionary department.

  59. Dividends on October 6, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    Mesa, Arizona

  60. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    Sorry, link. http://tiny.pl/1jxw

  61. Dividends on October 6, 2007 at 1:03 pm

    Did you all see that message – a live news conference will be broadcast 30 minutes after this session with members of the First Presidency

  62. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Dividends, I believe that is standard practice for new First Presidency members. (I feel bad, though: that’s gotta cut into their lunch break.)

  63. Mike Parker on October 6, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Laura #56: That was Mesa Arizona. The personal story the speaker was telling was about his family’s 1500-mile journey to that temple to be sealed.

  64. Russell Arben Fox on October 6, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    What was the name of the brother who spoke immediately before the song, and what is his calling? Was he just called to the presidency of the first quorum of the seventy?

  65. Kim Siever on October 6, 2007 at 1:05 pm

    Re: #60. Not where I live.

  66. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    Udine Fallabella, a member of the 70 from Guatemala.

  67. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    Ben S., if I read that right, they’ve got the wrong info on Elder Cook–having him called to the Presidency of the Seventy.

  68. Seth R. on October 6, 2007 at 1:08 pm

    Wasn’t it Enrique Falabella?

  69. Dividends on October 6, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    Julie #56: Do they always show this press conference after the session when the First Presidency changes? I dont remember this from before, but that may be because I did not watch it on BYU TV the last time there was a change in the FP

  70. Matt B on October 6, 2007 at 1:11 pm

    Julie – it’s an old press release (from August), but I imagine the bio information is still accurate.

  71. Robert C. on October 6, 2007 at 1:12 pm

    Can someone give me a list of the speakers thus far (I want to know how much I missed, since I’ve been interrupted)? Thanks.

  72. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    I’ll go with that Seth. I found an Udine Falabella at LDS.org from Guatemala 10 years ago or so. Different people, I guess.

  73. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    Have y’all seen Elder Uchtdorf’s brother? http://www.nndb.com/people/781/000022715/bostwick.jpg

  74. Behind the Infamous Veil on October 6, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    ooohh, I love the emotion in this talk. God will remember you!

  75. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    I don’t know–I’m new to BYU TV online as well. I’d think they would, though. The lds.org newsroom did say that they would have it online later.

  76. Ben S on October 6, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    Robert C. ,
    http://messengerandadvocate.wordpress.com/2007/10/06/177th-semiannual-general-conference/

    Seth, Enrique has one l in Falabella, and Udine had two, Fallabella. Definitely different people.

  77. Robert C. on October 6, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Wow, thanks Ben. Was there anyone between Condie and Uchtdorf (sp?)?

  78. Myka on October 6, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Can you guys stream it with the live picture? I can only get the audio through LDS.org.

  79. Robert C. on October 6, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    (Never mind, I guess not. Wow he’s fast at updating his site!)

  80. Behind the Infamous Veil on October 6, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    no, I have Packer, Edgeley, Mary Ann Cook, Falabella, Condie, Uchtdorf

  81. Kim Siever on October 6, 2007 at 1:19 pm

    Try byu.tv Myka.

  82. WillF on October 6, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    This is the first year that we have been able to get a consistent video+audio stream. Either it is the new iMac (using Safari browser) or http://www.byu.tv has really boosted bandwidth this year. It is finally as good as watching it in the chapel.

  83. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    You can also watch conf live on ksl.com

  84. Ronan on October 6, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    God is a lawyer?

    No, that would be Satan. See Job, Book of.

  85. Prescriptive Grammarian on October 6, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    Elder Uchtdorf quoted 2 Nephi 32:3 correctly! (It’s been misquoted in conference before, but corrected for the Ensign.)

    32:3 has an archaic relative pronoun, “all things *what* you should do” which others have either misremembered or “corrected” when quoting it in conference.

  86. Tanya Spackman on October 6, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    Elder Uchdorf is quickly entering my list of favorite apostles.

  87. makakona on October 6, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    just wanted to thank y’all for your comments. without cable or internet (i’m on my cell), i watch at the stake center. but effective 2:00 a.m., my 2yo is croupy with a high fever and so t&s is all i have. hooray for t&s!

  88. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    makakona, follow the link in #75 for excellent notes on Conference.

  89. Mike Parker on October 6, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    President Eyring’s biography on LDS.org has some wonderful insights into his relationship with his parents. I’m pleased to be a member of a church where Henry Eyring’s son is in the top leadership; they are both wonderful men.

    http://tinyurl.com/2q4fuk

  90. Connor on October 6, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    #81
    BYU.TV is using a new technology to stream video, from Move Networks (http://www.movenetworks.com). I just started working there a couple weeks ago, so that’s how I know. :)

  91. Steve M on October 6, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    Lots of emphasis so far on how we\’re different from other Christian churches.

  92. Dividends on October 6, 2007 at 1:29 pm

    endure “joyfully” to the end. Wonderful. To many who endure begrudgingly

  93. Russell Arben Fox on October 6, 2007 at 1:30 pm

    Elder Uchtdorf radiates energy like no other apostle I can think of since the younger days of Elder L. Tom Perry. Even President Monson, a profoundly optimistic person, expresses that optimism through friendliness and conviviality, not high-charged enthusiasm. I can’t imagine what kind of a shot in the arm his calling must have been experienced as during the first few meetings of the Twelve last year. The man can even make a cynic and critic like myself smile.

  94. madera verde on October 6, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    #90
    I wonder if that will have any effect on Romney’s campaign.

  95. queuno on October 6, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    Consider Eyring was once the president of Ricks College, is this now the first college/university president in the First Presidency?

    Given his family history, I’ll bet he can give a mean talk on science and faith…

  96. Jacob J on October 6, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    Was Packer’s talk offering apologia for another white apostle?
    Was that story he told about the old lady from Brigham City from the The Work and the Glory? (pretty sure her name turned out to be Sis Steed)
    Have the women in Utah not figured out that bangs are awful?
    Will Pres Hinkley ever start looking frail? My bishop predicted two years ago from the stand it might be his last general conference but he looks stronger this conference than last.

  97. Steve M on October 6, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    Given his family history, I’ll bet he can give a mean talk on science and faith…

    It was my understanding that President Eyring, at his own admission, doesn’t share his father’s passion or talent for science.

  98. Behind the Infamous Veil on October 6, 2007 at 1:51 pm

    E Monson sure loves widows, doesn’t he?

  99. Matt W. on October 6, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    This was a really good session. I will definitely want to go back and read Edgley’s Talk.

  100. WillF on October 6, 2007 at 1:56 pm

    Conner, movenetworks is a significant improvement! The stereo audio quality is wonderful. It looks like KSL has adopted it as well (although for some reason their feed is behind the byu.tv feed).

  101. Matt W. on October 6, 2007 at 2:00 pm

    Maybe Move Networks is on delay in case the apostles say words not allowed by the FCC?

  102. Jacob J on October 6, 2007 at 2:33 pm

    Steve M,

    Eyring has a degree in physics, doesn’t he?

  103. WillF on October 6, 2007 at 2:37 pm

    Julie (62), maybe they are fasting anyway and so the press conference helps keep their minds off of food.

  104. queuno on October 6, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    It was my understanding that President Eyring, at his own admission, doesn’t share his father’s passion or talent for science.

    There’s a difference between having his father’s deep passion and talent, and being able to offer a sensible perspective based on his personal knowledge and experience on the topic. Let’s face it — there are relatively few LDS members who have the elder Eyring’s passion and talent for science, and even fewer who can talk intelligently about the mix science and faith in scientific terms.

    On a separate note, this makes two MBAs in the First Presidency.

  105. Brian D. on October 6, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    I just realized that I forgot to record conference on my computer. :-(

  106. Jared on October 6, 2007 at 2:43 pm

    Elder Packer said what has been needed for a long time. Those who haven’t served in conspicuous church callings won’t have excuse for the line of reasoning that says: “The Lord hasn’t given me ‘ fill in the blank” because I haven’t been called to be a “fill in the blank”. No more excuses, everything that is available to Elder Packer is available to the least among us if we really want it and diligently seek after it.

  107. Eric Russell on October 6, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    Bloggers mentioned in the Q & A for Cook and Eyring. Erying is handling himself particularly well. Said he was called just two days ago!

  108. Ray on October 6, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    My daughter looked at me and said, “How many days to get to the temple? 4800 miles?!?!” Thanks, Elder Falabella!

    LOVE Elder Eyring in the FP; was surprised by Elder Cook, but immediately felt good abuot it; Elder Uchdorf simply is a stud.

  109. Costanza on October 6, 2007 at 2:54 pm

    Elder Cook did a nice job in responding to the “another white Utah guy” question. I wonder if he anticipated that one.

  110. Ray on October 6, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    Also, Elder Packer’s talk was fabulous.

  111. Brian D. on October 6, 2007 at 2:59 pm

    Has anyone been watching the press conference?? President Eyring is amazing! WOW!

  112. Costanza on October 6, 2007 at 3:00 pm

    I agree Brian. This press conference is most unusual and President Eyring’s remarks are stunning.

  113. Costanza on October 6, 2007 at 3:02 pm

    Elder Cook seems like a pretty serious guy.

  114. Eric Russell on October 6, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    President’s Eyring’s story about disagreement among the brethren was better than anything I’ve heard in conference in years. Maybe conference should just be a giant Q & A?

  115. dave on October 6, 2007 at 3:07 pm

    Where can I find this press conference?

  116. Ardis Parshall on October 6, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    As Hinckley sat down, he tapped Eyring on the head with his cane, prompting the audience to erupt in laughter. (from the SLTribune’s report of this morning’s session)

    So that’s what the laughter was about! Ha!

  117. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    FYI the press conference can be watched on byu-tv–it starts about 2:30 into LDS General Conference (10 am).

  118. Brian D. on October 6, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    I recall when President Hinckley was sustained as the Prophet and I sought the Lord in prayer so that I could receive a testimony of his call. The answer came as I watched the video about President Hnckley shown during the conference break about. I just experienced a similar feeling of testimony as I watched and listened to President Eyring’s responses in the press conference.

  119. Hans Hansen on October 6, 2007 at 3:37 pm

    Elder Cook is my former Bishop and Stake President in the San Francisco Bay Area. He is a very warm and compassionate person. He will be a welcome addition to the Quorum of the Twelve.

    President Eyring spoke at my daughter’s graduation exercises and her college convocation at BYU-Idaho earlier this year. A very inspiring speaker and really concerned about young people.

    Elder Holland was my Institute director in my younger days. Back then we knew him as “Jeff”!

  120. It's Not Me on October 6, 2007 at 3:38 pm

    Does anybody know of an available option (at some point) to download the talks in video? We traditionally record conference and keep the tapes to use in lessons, etc., but it’s kind of a hassle and it seems that there ought download video. Or order it.

  121. Brian D. on October 6, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    I agree, Julie. The press conference showed the mettle and power of a true apostle of Jesus Christ.

  122. Brad Kramer on October 6, 2007 at 3:49 pm

    Any links to the post-session press conference w/ Eyring and Cook?

  123. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    Brian D., I deleted my comment. It’ll be back in action as its own post on Monday. :)

    Brad, go to BYU TV, Sat am Conference, 2:30 into the program.

  124. Erich on October 6, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    I had the opportunity to hear President Eyring speak a few years ago when he attended stake conference in Cleveland, Ohio. As a relatively new convert to the church, I was a thrill to hear an apostle in person – and then get to meet him. In meeting him, I made the mistake of calling him \”President\” Eyring instead of \”Elder Eyring.\” I guess I was just a few years ahead in my timing! Anyway, he just smiled and warmly greeted me and thanked me for my service to the church. Since then, President Eyring has always been one of my favorites. I\’m thrilled to see him in the first presidency and definitely support him and Elder Cook in their new callings.

  125. Brian D. on October 6, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Julie, I will look forward to reading your post.

  126. Seth R. on October 6, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    Whoa.

    Elder Ballard just conceded that a lot of confusion about what Mormonism is, is partly the Church’s own fault for not explaining itself clearly. It’s turning out to be a very interesting talk.

  127. Jordan F. on October 6, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Regarding what was funny after Elder Eyring was called (not sure if someone already said this)- President Hinckley tapped President Eyring on the head with his cane on his way back to his seat as a sort of “coronation”. It looked funny. (I was in the conference center…)

  128. Kevin Barney on October 6, 2007 at 5:03 pm

    So what was the gist of the Kirby quote? I missed it.

  129. Julie M. Smith on October 6, 2007 at 6:22 pm

    Kevin, he told a story about how the advantage of living “cheek to jowl” with your ward is how they all pitch in during times of tragedy. Tragic car accident, everyone in the ward helps: “we would have washed their dog if they had one.”

  130. queuno on October 7, 2007 at 12:43 am

    OK, so maybe I’m an idiot, but the Sat a.m. conference segment on byu.tv is only 2:00 in length. Where can I find the press conference at this point?

  131. queuno on October 7, 2007 at 1:25 am

    (Nevermind, found it on lds.org)

  132. Clair on October 7, 2007 at 11:30 am

    Press conference video:

    http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=ae11627d59eec010VgnVCM1000004e94610aRCRD

    It is worth watching to the end to hear how decisions are made among the First Presidency. Elder Eyring describes a meeting conducted by President Lee, guided by revelation and unity. He says it was unlike anything he had seen in the business world.

  133. Russell Arben Fox on October 8, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    Thanks for the commentary, everyone. This thread is now closed.

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