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		<title>By: annegb</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/07/mamadou/#comment-228417</link>
		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have eaten the bread.  I&#039;m not afraid of AIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have eaten the bread.  I&#8217;m not afraid of AIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Razorfish</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/07/mamadou/#comment-228415</link>
		<dc:creator>Razorfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;etait formidable (encore)...Merci....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;etait formidable (encore)&#8230;Merci&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: tyler</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/07/mamadou/#comment-228414</link>
		<dc:creator>tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilfried--

Sorry if my comment came across too harshly: all members, including those abstaining from the bread, are seeking perfection through Christ.  AIDS is a frightening thing, especially for those who are ignorant of how it is passed from person to person.

Margaret--

I am often surprised, even amazed, at the bigness of those who are able to forgive like Darius--he sets a high standard for the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilfried&#8211;</p>
<p>Sorry if my comment came across too harshly: all members, including those abstaining from the bread, are seeking perfection through Christ.  AIDS is a frightening thing, especially for those who are ignorant of how it is passed from person to person.</p>
<p>Margaret&#8211;</p>
<p>I am often surprised, even amazed, at the bigness of those who are able to forgive like Darius&#8211;he sets a high standard for the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilfried</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/07/mamadou/#comment-228412</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilfried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly not, Brian (29), but people are sometimes irrational in their fears. And indeed, as others have said, we need to educate our people, either discreetly or publicly according to circumstances. 

Manaen (28), to answer your question, I don&#039;t think there is a difference in the way people react to situations like the one in Mamadou&#039;s story, if one would compare it between continents. I think many of us, as has been said in some comments, would recognize their own reticence if in a similar situation confronted with a person who has AIDS. 

As far as racism or other differences are concerned, I think many of us need to go through a maturing process in order to become more accepting persons,  in any place in the world. From a politico-cultural standpoint, it is evident that such changes in attitude, viewed per country, have happened in different periods. And that today some countries, as to average feelings of racism, are still behind others. Getting used to diversity and equality therein takes time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly not, Brian (29), but people are sometimes irrational in their fears. And indeed, as others have said, we need to educate our people, either discreetly or publicly according to circumstances. </p>
<p>Manaen (28), to answer your question, I don&#8217;t think there is a difference in the way people react to situations like the one in Mamadou&#8217;s story, if one would compare it between continents. I think many of us, as has been said in some comments, would recognize their own reticence if in a similar situation confronted with a person who has AIDS. </p>
<p>As far as racism or other differences are concerned, I think many of us need to go through a maturing process in order to become more accepting persons,  in any place in the world. From a politico-cultural standpoint, it is evident that such changes in attitude, viewed per country, have happened in different periods. And that today some countries, as to average feelings of racism, are still behind others. Getting used to diversity and equality therein takes time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/07/mamadou/#comment-228410</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there actually church members out there who think a bishopric would put them at risk of physical harm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there actually church members out there who think a bishopric would put them at risk of physical harm?</p>
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		<title>By: manaen</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/07/mamadou/#comment-228405</link>
		<dc:creator>manaen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad we now see LDS congregations, like those in LA, being comfortable in their diversity.

Interesting contrast in this story and later comments: 
* In Mamadou&#039;s European story, the branch allowed/encouraged his participation and hesitant members tried to hide their reticence
* In Darius&#039;s American stories, the deacon obviously tried to prevent Darius from touching the sacrament tray and the BYU parents not only were open about their reticence, they demanded -- and obtained (!) -- institutional support.

Is this a cultural difference in the Church  between continents or beween pre- and post-Revelation versions of the Church (the pre- dean apologized post-Revelation)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad we now see LDS congregations, like those in LA, being comfortable in their diversity.</p>
<p>Interesting contrast in this story and later comments:<br />
* In Mamadou&#8217;s European story, the branch allowed/encouraged his participation and hesitant members tried to hide their reticence<br />
* In Darius&#8217;s American stories, the deacon obviously tried to prevent Darius from touching the sacrament tray and the BYU parents not only were open about their reticence, they demanded &#8212; and obtained (!) &#8212; institutional support.</p>
<p>Is this a cultural difference in the Church  between continents or beween pre- and post-Revelation versions of the Church (the pre- dean apologized post-Revelation)?</p>
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		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilfried, thank you.  Your posts always touch me and make me a better person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilfried, thank you.  Your posts always touch me and make me a better person.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cobabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cobabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is natural fear of disease we all know to be contagious and dangerous.  Also a lot of misinformation and poor understanding about AIDS and similarly infectious disease.  Should everyone be expected to suspend their personal concerns because we are in a church?  Rather than suffer in silence, I would prefer to acknowledge the legitimate concerns, and would appreciate help to understand how and why to dismiss the baseless fears.

When I am at work around several family members that carry infectious blood-borne pathogens, I am aware that there are risks, have informed myself about how to minimize them, and have discussed this with the infected people.  None has ever taken offense that I expressed a desire to protect myself with best practices.   

I think the ideal might be that we ought to inform and prepare ourselves to deal with such problems, just as health-care professionals routinely do.  In this day and age nobody should feel offended at such reasonable precautions.

Why not offer some word of explanation to members of the congregation?  Perhaps both they and Mamadou would find comfort and solace through better understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is natural fear of disease we all know to be contagious and dangerous.  Also a lot of misinformation and poor understanding about AIDS and similarly infectious disease.  Should everyone be expected to suspend their personal concerns because we are in a church?  Rather than suffer in silence, I would prefer to acknowledge the legitimate concerns, and would appreciate help to understand how and why to dismiss the baseless fears.</p>
<p>When I am at work around several family members that carry infectious blood-borne pathogens, I am aware that there are risks, have informed myself about how to minimize them, and have discussed this with the infected people.  None has ever taken offense that I expressed a desire to protect myself with best practices.   </p>
<p>I think the ideal might be that we ought to inform and prepare ourselves to deal with such problems, just as health-care professionals routinely do.  In this day and age nobody should feel offended at such reasonable precautions.</p>
<p>Why not offer some word of explanation to members of the congregation?  Perhaps both they and Mamadou would find comfort and solace through better understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie M. Smith</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/07/mamadou/#comment-228397</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie M. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, thanks for clarifying.  I didn&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, thanks for clarifying.  I didn&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/07/mamadou/#comment-228395</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I doubt the bishopric would allow someone to administer the sacrament if he was a danger to those taking the sacrament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I doubt the bishopric would allow someone to administer the sacrament if he was a danger to those taking the sacrament.</p>
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