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	<title>Comments on: FTA: Toward a Theology of Supermarkets</title>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226376</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan S., no, Wal-Mart is good for the world.  Please tell all of the people in the coffee shop with lots of exposed wood and free wifi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan S., no, Wal-Mart is good for the world.  Please tell all of the people in the coffee shop with lots of exposed wood and free wifi.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan S.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226375</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Are you saying that WalMart does damage to the world? I didn&#039;t know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Are you saying that WalMart does damage to the world? I didn&#8217;t know that.</p>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226293</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 02:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan S.,

So you&#039;re neither admitting nor denying that the &quot;drinks&quot; in question are coffee-based?

You betrayed an anti-Wal-Mart bent with this phrase:

&quot;does as little damage to the world at large as possible&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan S.,</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re neither admitting nor denying that the &#8220;drinks&#8221; in question are coffee-based?</p>
<p>You betrayed an anti-Wal-Mart bent with this phrase:</p>
<p>&#8220;does as little damage to the world at large as possible&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan S.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226291</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Williams:
Note I said I was at a coffee shop.  But I did say &quot;drinks.&quot; Aren&#039;t you making assumptions here?

And did I criticize Wal-Mart?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Williams:<br />
Note I said I was at a coffee shop.  But I did say &#8220;drinks.&#8221; Aren&#8217;t you making assumptions here?</p>
<p>And did I criticize Wal-Mart?</p>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226197</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan S.

If you are willing to pay a higher price for organic vegetables and high-quality coffee, that&#039;s fine in my opinion.  You should have complete freedom to buy whatever you want.  Just don&#039;t criticize Wal-Mart.

On the other hand, if you are a Mormon, maybe you shouldn&#039;t be drinking coffee...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan S.</p>
<p>If you are willing to pay a higher price for organic vegetables and high-quality coffee, that&#8217;s fine in my opinion.  You should have complete freedom to buy whatever you want.  Just don&#8217;t criticize Wal-Mart.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you are a Mormon, maybe you shouldn&#8217;t be drinking coffee&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan S.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226196</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of those pathetic people who have been shopping at farmers&#039; markets for 20 years. I grew  up in a farm village. Have grown gardens all my life--at times in over the top ways.  I well understand that growing my own vegetables right now in the city, shopping at the farmers market, and (oh so happily) shopping at my new local grocery market (very small, but not as expensive as you&#039;d think given the local, organic produce and the great little deli) is a privilege. It&#039;s expensive. It&#039;s elitist.  I can do this because I can afford to do this--at least the way I do.  But I can&#039;t see that as a reason not to do what I do. Would I somehow be better off to shop at the big supermarket more. I want to spend my money on something that brings me pleasure and does as little damage to the world at large as possible.

This discussion reminds me of my dear husband. He won&#039;t go with me to the coffee house up the street because he&#039;s annoyed by the clientelle--too yuppy, too self satisfied, too PC.. But it&#039;s close. The drinks are lovely. Lots of exposed wood. Free wifi. And remind me please, why is it that I&#039;m not supposed to go there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those pathetic people who have been shopping at farmers&#8217; markets for 20 years. I grew  up in a farm village. Have grown gardens all my life&#8211;at times in over the top ways.  I well understand that growing my own vegetables right now in the city, shopping at the farmers market, and (oh so happily) shopping at my new local grocery market (very small, but not as expensive as you&#8217;d think given the local, organic produce and the great little deli) is a privilege. It&#8217;s expensive. It&#8217;s elitist.  I can do this because I can afford to do this&#8211;at least the way I do.  But I can&#8217;t see that as a reason not to do what I do. Would I somehow be better off to shop at the big supermarket more. I want to spend my money on something that brings me pleasure and does as little damage to the world at large as possible.</p>
<p>This discussion reminds me of my dear husband. He won&#8217;t go with me to the coffee house up the street because he&#8217;s annoyed by the clientelle&#8211;too yuppy, too self satisfied, too PC.. But it&#8217;s close. The drinks are lovely. Lots of exposed wood. Free wifi. And remind me please, why is it that I&#8217;m not supposed to go there?</p>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226183</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember back in the day when deodorant came in cardboard boxes?  Notice how today deodorant is on the shelf not in a box?

Obviously, deodorant packaged in a cardboard box is wasteful.  It kills tree unneccessarily.  Paper mill workers who make these boxes are wasting their time and energy.  Workers who create the ink for these boxes waste their time and energy.  People who used to buy deodorant in cardboard boxes were wasting their money because they had to pay for the little bit of cardboard that the deodorant came in, but they were getting absolutely zero value from the cardboard box.  Rather, they had to take the time to chuck the cardboard box into the trash.  Landfill space was taken up by useless cardboard deodorant boxes that added no value to the human race.

So thank goodness that we no longer buy our deodorant in cardboard boxes.  Who can we thank for this?  Wal-Mart.

In Wal-Mart&#039;s race to compete and provide the lowest possible prices, Wal-Mart innovates.  Then, thanks to its innovation, it dominates.  The competition copies Wal-Marts.  Wal-Mart does things efficiently, and when the competition copies Wal-Mart, pretty soon everyone is doing things efficiently.

And then trees don&#039;t get cut down for useless cardboard deodorant boxes.  And then poor families will each save a few dollars each year because they aren&#039;t paying for cardboard boxes each time they buy a stick of deodorant.

Thank goodness we have Wal-Mart.  All of your lives are better off because of the existence of Wal-Mart.  If Sam Walton were alive today, he would be the richest man on earth, and he would deserve every penny of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember back in the day when deodorant came in cardboard boxes?  Notice how today deodorant is on the shelf not in a box?</p>
<p>Obviously, deodorant packaged in a cardboard box is wasteful.  It kills tree unneccessarily.  Paper mill workers who make these boxes are wasting their time and energy.  Workers who create the ink for these boxes waste their time and energy.  People who used to buy deodorant in cardboard boxes were wasting their money because they had to pay for the little bit of cardboard that the deodorant came in, but they were getting absolutely zero value from the cardboard box.  Rather, they had to take the time to chuck the cardboard box into the trash.  Landfill space was taken up by useless cardboard deodorant boxes that added no value to the human race.</p>
<p>So thank goodness that we no longer buy our deodorant in cardboard boxes.  Who can we thank for this?  Wal-Mart.</p>
<p>In Wal-Mart&#8217;s race to compete and provide the lowest possible prices, Wal-Mart innovates.  Then, thanks to its innovation, it dominates.  The competition copies Wal-Marts.  Wal-Mart does things efficiently, and when the competition copies Wal-Mart, pretty soon everyone is doing things efficiently.</p>
<p>And then trees don&#8217;t get cut down for useless cardboard deodorant boxes.  And then poor families will each save a few dollars each year because they aren&#8217;t paying for cardboard boxes each time they buy a stick of deodorant.</p>
<p>Thank goodness we have Wal-Mart.  All of your lives are better off because of the existence of Wal-Mart.  If Sam Walton were alive today, he would be the richest man on earth, and he would deserve every penny of it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226181</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kristine N,

&quot;So, in the New Testament the only way to be wealthy was to oppress others, while today itâ€™s possible to be wealthy without oppressing others because of better property rights laws?&quot;

In a free market, the way to get wealthy is helping others.  You compete with other businesses to provide a product at the lowest possible price.  This spurs innovation.  The consumer wins because they end up getting a product at a low price.  The efficient producer wins because consumers purchase from him / her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kristine N,</p>
<p>&#8220;So, in the New Testament the only way to be wealthy was to oppress others, while today itâ€™s possible to be wealthy without oppressing others because of better property rights laws?&#8221;</p>
<p>In a free market, the way to get wealthy is helping others.  You compete with other businesses to provide a product at the lowest possible price.  This spurs innovation.  The consumer wins because they end up getting a product at a low price.  The efficient producer wins because consumers purchase from him / her.</p>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226180</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a consulting firm called McKinsey &amp; Co. for one chapter of an October 2001 report they wrote called &quot;U. S. Productivity and Growth 1995-2000&quot;:

&quot;Retail Sector 
In general merchandise (representing 16 percent of the total retail productivity growth acceleration), we found that Wal-Mart directly and indirectly caused the bulk of the productivity acceleration through ongoing managerial innovation that increased competitive intensity and drove the diffusion of best practice (both managerial and technological).&quot; 

If you care about poor people, you would support Wal-Mart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a consulting firm called McKinsey &amp; Co. for one chapter of an October 2001 report they wrote called &#8220;U. S. Productivity and Growth 1995-2000&#8243;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Retail Sector<br />
In general merchandise (representing 16 percent of the total retail productivity growth acceleration), we found that Wal-Mart directly and indirectly caused the bulk of the productivity acceleration through ongoing managerial innovation that increased competitive intensity and drove the diffusion of best practice (both managerial and technological).&#8221; </p>
<p>If you care about poor people, you would support Wal-Mart.</p>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/06/from-the-archives-toward-a-theology-of-supremarkets/#comment-226178</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My guilty secret is to go down the aisle that has the mixers for alcoholic drinks and wonder how to make cocktails.&quot;

Be careful, Mark IV.  It is a slippery slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My guilty secret is to go down the aisle that has the mixers for alcoholic drinks and wonder how to make cocktails.&#8221;</p>
<p>Be careful, Mark IV.  It is a slippery slope.</p>
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