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		<title>By: Ardis Parshall</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221747</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nato -- We could tell quadriplegic jokes:  

What do you call a man with no arms and no legs who helps repair your car? Jack.   
What do you call a man with no arms and no legs who goes swimming? Bob.    
What do you call a man with no arms and no legs hanging on the wall? Art.   

My nephew Chris and the other young guys with him could bounce dozens of these around the ward. Patient or visitor, you didn&#039;t fit in until you learned not to take yourself so seriously that you couldn&#039;t see something funny in the worst thing you could imagine happening. Christlike? It was certainly Chris-like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nato &#8212; We could tell quadriplegic jokes:  </p>
<p>What do you call a man with no arms and no legs who helps repair your car? Jack.<br />
What do you call a man with no arms and no legs who goes swimming? Bob.<br />
What do you call a man with no arms and no legs hanging on the wall? Art.   </p>
<p>My nephew Chris and the other young guys with him could bounce dozens of these around the ward. Patient or visitor, you didn&#8217;t fit in until you learned not to take yourself so seriously that you couldn&#8217;t see something funny in the worst thing you could imagine happening. Christlike? It was certainly Chris-like.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221729</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Sounds apocryphal to me. This very thing happens in the movie Jesus of Montreal.

Maybe it&#039;s not so much apocryphal as ... it&#039;s happened plenty of times, in lots of different places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Sounds apocryphal to me. This very thing happens in the movie Jesus of Montreal.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not so much apocryphal as &#8230; it&#8217;s happened plenty of times, in lots of different places.</p>
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		<title>By: Nato</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221718</link>
		<dc:creator>Nato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alcoholism is a disease, so as long as we are making fun of drunks lets make fun of cancer patients, and infertile Mormon couples with no kidsâ€¦ because that is exactly what Christ would do isnâ€™t it?  Or do we only have to treat good Mormons with Christ like respect (and potential converts till we find out they are happy with their current religion)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alcoholism is a disease, so as long as we are making fun of drunks lets make fun of cancer patients, and infertile Mormon couples with no kidsâ€¦ because that is exactly what Christ would do isnâ€™t it?  Or do we only have to treat good Mormons with Christ like respect (and potential converts till we find out they are happy with their current religion)</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis Parshall</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221513</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>annegb, you remind me of one of my favorite stories encountered in a pioneer overland diary. Sister X was having a hard time with the cattle pulling her wagon, and the wagon overturned, tipping out a keg of whisky and breaking it open. Bro. X was infuriated, and his anger didn&#039;t wane with the passing of the day. Someone in the company recorded that as the camp watchman cried out the hours that night, he called, &quot;It&#039;s ten o&#039;clock and all is well, and X is scolding his wife like hell!&quot; 

Ah, the pioneer stories you don&#039;t hear retold at Conference!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>annegb, you remind me of one of my favorite stories encountered in a pioneer overland diary. Sister X was having a hard time with the cattle pulling her wagon, and the wagon overturned, tipping out a keg of whisky and breaking it open. Bro. X was infuriated, and his anger didn&#8217;t wane with the passing of the day. Someone in the company recorded that as the camp watchman cried out the hours that night, he called, &#8220;It&#8217;s ten o&#8217;clock and all is well, and X is scolding his wife like hell!&#8221; </p>
<p>Ah, the pioneer stories you don&#8217;t hear retold at Conference!</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221511</link>
		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 18:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBiden, are you a member of the faith that Kaimi is describing and that we find amusing?  Is that why you&#039;re upset?

Believe me, if Mormons reenacted the handcart trek and got drunk and forgot somebody, we&#039;d all be cracking up.  And said Mormons would never be allowed to forget it.  Certainly not as long as I&#039;m around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBiden, are you a member of the faith that Kaimi is describing and that we find amusing?  Is that why you&#8217;re upset?</p>
<p>Believe me, if Mormons reenacted the handcart trek and got drunk and forgot somebody, we&#8217;d all be cracking up.  And said Mormons would never be allowed to forget it.  Certainly not as long as I&#8217;m around.</p>
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		<title>By: CBiden</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221505</link>
		<dc:creator>CBiden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 16:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;best&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;best&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221501</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh is THAT why alcoholism is so popular?

It&#039;s the SPIRITUALITY! I completely missed that one, I must confess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh is THAT why alcoholism is so popular?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the SPIRITUALITY! I completely missed that one, I must confess.</p>
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		<title>By: DKL</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221498</link>
		<dc:creator>DKL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 11:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;C. Biden:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Iâ€™ve not been &quot;proven&quot; wrong. You disagree with me; thatâ€™s fine. Unless there is some universally accepted rule about what is effective humor, I will consider your statement to be simply your opinion.&lt;/i&gt;

On the contrary, your assertions concerning the nature of humor have been shown to incorrect by counter examples. In other words, to the extant that this has anything to do with rules of effective humor, you&#039;re the one who has been offering rules. I&#039;m just been coming up with examples to show that they&#039;re bogus. So yes, you have been shown (and rather easily I might add) to have been wrong.

In your earlier comment, you tried to change the subject to whether I&#039;m a know-it-all and whether we should make fun of the jews. Now you&#039;re trying to mischaracterize the nature of your assertions. You might do better just to quit while you&#039;re less behind.

&lt;b&gt;C. Biden:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt; where in the above comments does it appear that Iâ€™ve made fun of anyoneâ€™s religion?&lt;/i&gt;

In the portion of your initial comment deleted by the admins for temple ceremony content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>C. Biden:</b> <i>Iâ€™ve not been &#8220;proven&#8221; wrong. You disagree with me; thatâ€™s fine. Unless there is some universally accepted rule about what is effective humor, I will consider your statement to be simply your opinion.</i></p>
<p>On the contrary, your assertions concerning the nature of humor have been shown to incorrect by counter examples. In other words, to the extant that this has anything to do with rules of effective humor, you&#8217;re the one who has been offering rules. I&#8217;m just been coming up with examples to show that they&#8217;re bogus. So yes, you have been shown (and rather easily I might add) to have been wrong.</p>
<p>In your earlier comment, you tried to change the subject to whether I&#8217;m a know-it-all and whether we should make fun of the jews. Now you&#8217;re trying to mischaracterize the nature of your assertions. You might do better just to quit while you&#8217;re less behind.</p>
<p><b>C. Biden:</b> <i> where in the above comments does it appear that Iâ€™ve made fun of anyoneâ€™s religion?</i></p>
<p>In the portion of your initial comment deleted by the admins for temple ceremony content.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Biden</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221490</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Biden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 06:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not been &quot;proven&quot; wrong.  You disagree with me; that&#039;s fine.  Unless there is some universally accepted rule about  what is effective humor, I will consider your statement to be simply your opinion. However, where in the above comments does it appear that I&#039;ve made fun of anyone&#039;s religion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not been &#8220;proven&#8221; wrong.  You disagree with me; that&#8217;s fine.  Unless there is some universally accepted rule about  what is effective humor, I will consider your statement to be simply your opinion. However, where in the above comments does it appear that I&#8217;ve made fun of anyone&#8217;s religion?</p>
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		<title>By: DKL</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2007/04/fallen/#comment-221488</link>
		<dc:creator>DKL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 03:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;C. Biden:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Iâ€™m glad I found someone who has all the answers about everything as you seem to.&lt;/i&gt;

So you&#039;re the one who&#039;s gone off half-cocked. You&#039;ve been shown (and rather easily I might add) to be wrong about whether drunks are fair game for jokes, wrong about whether Flying Circus only pokes fun at itself, and wrong about the notion that the best humor pokes fun at itself. Given your track record here, one might reasonably expect you to be a bit more tentative in your assertions.

Instead, your response to being shown to be altogether mistaken is accuse me of being a know-it-all?

&lt;b&gt;C. Biden:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Shall we all make fun of the Jews next?&lt;/i&gt;

No. We&#039;re just making fun of drunks here. You&#039;re the one who pokes fun at other peoples religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>C. Biden:</b> <i>Iâ€™m glad I found someone who has all the answers about everything as you seem to.</i></p>
<p>So you&#8217;re the one who&#8217;s gone off half-cocked. You&#8217;ve been shown (and rather easily I might add) to be wrong about whether drunks are fair game for jokes, wrong about whether Flying Circus only pokes fun at itself, and wrong about the notion that the best humor pokes fun at itself. Given your track record here, one might reasonably expect you to be a bit more tentative in your assertions.</p>
<p>Instead, your response to being shown to be altogether mistaken is accuse me of being a know-it-all?</p>
<p><b>C. Biden:</b> <i>Shall we all make fun of the Jews next?</i></p>
<p>No. We&#8217;re just making fun of drunks here. You&#8217;re the one who pokes fun at other peoples religions.</p>
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