Comments on: Kolob

By: needsanothername

needsanothername — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:19:40 +0000

Perhaps I\’m missing something here – people are speaking of kolob as if there is some great and deep doctrine that has yet to be uncovered … verse 3 seems very clear with no ambiguity. Although it has been interesting reading the various comments, I suggest that this simply is not one of the deep doctrines of the gospel.

By: B. A. Baker

B. A. Baker — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:00:45 +0000

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
\”If You Could Hie to Kolob\” is a Mormon hymn that was written by William Wines Phelps, a prominent early Mormon. The music is taken from a well-known folk tune known as Dives and Lazarus. It is hymn number 284 in the hymnal for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
According to Chapter 3 of the Book of Abraham in the Pearl of Great Price (part of the canon of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints), Kolob is the great star that is nearest to the throne of God

By: Kryptoss

Kryptoss — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:08 +0000

The reason Kolob is not discussed in any great length in the LDS Church is because not many will get to see it. The LDS Church does not want to get peoples hopes up and have those hopes dashed as they find out they will only get the Terrestrial or Telestial kingdoms.

By: Kolob Dude

Kolob Dude — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:36:23 +0000

I love the mysteries of the Church. It all makes sense to me. Hey God has to live somewhere. He probably watches football, but not on Sunday. lol.

By: Christian

Christian — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:59:04 +0000

The doctrinal significance of Kolob is that it locks in the fact that God is real and physical. That there’s an actual star that’s near to where God *lives*.

I think that CS Lewis’ “The Great Divorce” offers the best explanation for why this would strike so many Christians — including many LDS folks — with a case of the nervous giggles. Look at what the minister says when invited to actually come and meet God.

By: Christian

Christian — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:52:39 +0000

“If the earth had undergone a drastic change such as interstellar transport 6,000 years ago I would think there would be some evidence of this.”

It’s an interesting mental exercise. Which evidence specifically would you expect? The only one I could think of that we should be able to pick up would be a possible change in radioactive bombardment.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 01:05:29 +0000

Kolob is one of those doctrines where not much is written (cannonized), so not much is discussed. But Kolob is a beautiful topic because it not only stretches the mind out of finite levels, but also it is a powerful and magnificent type and symbol of Jesus Christ. Kolob is very much a central part of the gospel of Jesus Christ!

By: Austin F.

Austin F. — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:55:45 +0000

In late 1999 Elder John M. Madsen spoke to my mission about Kolob. He said that the earth was once in orbit with Kolob (whatever that means), but when Adam fell, the earth was expelled from that orbit and placed in its current orbit around the sun. He hypothesized that when the earth is celestialized it would return to its former heavenly orbit with (not around) Kolob. It’s still alive and well in his mind.

By: a random John

a random John — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:13:44 +0000

Matt W.,

1. Very true. I was being lighthearted, and I don’t think that Gary is judgmental. In fact, I’ve problem demonstrated myself to be the judgmental on in this exchange.

2. I should hope so. Including my view that it is a bit goofy.

3. If the earth had undergone a drastic change such as interstellar transport 6,000 years ago I would think there would be some evidence of this. Instead I find no scientific evidence of this and plenty that the earth was formed in its current orbit, that plants and animals having been living and dying here for millions of years. Why would God form it in a way that it only looks like it is old and has always featured death? Furthermore in contrast to the resurrection, I see very scant religious evidence of this possibility (especially given some of Brigham’s other ideas about outer space) and no real theological need for it. It isn’t a very useful concept, more of an oddity.

By: Gary

Gary — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:11:29 +0000

Matt W., I agree with and appreciate your comment. J. Stapley, Surely you mean "no [scientific] support and much [scientific evidence] to contradict it." Now, if that's what you mean, I agree with you that it's goofy—just like the idea that Jesus Christ is the physical, earthly Son of the Eternal Father in the most literal sense and just like the idea of His literal Resurrection from the dead—"no [scientific] support and much [scientific evidence] to contradict it." But see also the paragraph below. a random John, Admitedly, it is not known how many Church members and leaders support the 'earth-created-near-Kolob' view today. However, reading a Church President's endorsement of that view in the March 1997 Ensign has established it as a legitimate possibility in my mind. And no, actually I do not think you're going to be struck down at any moment.