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	<title>Comments on: Johanna Tippett Porter: In Active Service to the End</title>
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		<title>By: random me</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/11/johanna-tippett-porter-in-active-service-to-the-end/#comment-214270</link>
		<dc:creator>random me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 04:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mother teresa said, &quot;we can do no great things, only small things with great love.&quot;  i love these &quot;ordinary&quot; stories and hope i live a life conducive to someone someday writing such poetic stories about myself.  &quot;ordinary&quot; as they may be, the women you&#039;ve written about have been inspiring, perhaps in their plain-ness.  this one in particular touched me and nearly brought a tear to my eye.  i love that these great people (but aren&#039;t most of us great in SOME way?!) are being given their moment to shine, even posthumously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mother teresa said, &#8220;we can do no great things, only small things with great love.&#8221;  i love these &#8220;ordinary&#8221; stories and hope i live a life conducive to someone someday writing such poetic stories about myself.  &#8220;ordinary&#8221; as they may be, the women you&#8217;ve written about have been inspiring, perhaps in their plain-ness.  this one in particular touched me and nearly brought a tear to my eye.  i love that these great people (but aren&#8217;t most of us great in SOME way?!) are being given their moment to shine, even posthumously.</p>
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		<title>By: Dianna H.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/11/johanna-tippett-porter-in-active-service-to-the-end/#comment-214199</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianna H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, I enjoy these stories so much.  I agree that the lives of everyday, ordinary people can teach us so much.  Few of us will become famous or acheive greatness in the worldly sense but over the years I have known women who inspired me to be a better person and have taught me gospel principles through their example.  Please keep these stories coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, I enjoy these stories so much.  I agree that the lives of everyday, ordinary people can teach us so much.  Few of us will become famous or acheive greatness in the worldly sense but over the years I have known women who inspired me to be a better person and have taught me gospel principles through their example.  Please keep these stories coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Herodotus</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/11/johanna-tippett-porter-in-active-service-to-the-end/#comment-214149</link>
		<dc:creator>Herodotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blame my wife for the pyeudonym.  I think she fears I&#039;ll make a spectacle of myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blame my wife for the pyeudonym.  I think she fears I&#8217;ll make a spectacle of myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/11/johanna-tippett-porter-in-active-service-to-the-end/#comment-214146</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardis, men, women, children, bring &#039;em all on. I think we need more history of the ordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis, men, women, children, bring &#8216;em all on. I think we need more history of the ordinary.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/11/johanna-tippett-porter-in-active-service-to-the-end/#comment-214145</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough, grave dedications date back to pioneer times, but weren&#039;t considered priesthood ordinances until the the mid 20th century and women were able to do them.  I wrote a brief write up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.splendidsun.com/wp/index.php/2005/08/02/146&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last year&lt;/a&gt; (I have better refs now, so forgive the incompleteness of it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, grave dedications date back to pioneer times, but weren&#8217;t considered priesthood ordinances until the the mid 20th century and women were able to do them.  I wrote a brief write up <a href="http://www.splendidsun.com/wp/index.php/2005/08/02/146" rel="nofollow">last year</a> (I have better refs now, so forgive the incompleteness of it).</p>
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		<title>By: Ardis Parshall</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/11/johanna-tippett-porter-in-active-service-to-the-end/#comment-214143</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardis Parshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim F.: What do you say to a series of stories about men, too? I mean, about their lives as individual souls apart from their formal callings? I&#039;ve been thinking about the concept of men&#039;s history, which I know sounds redundant to a lot of people who think that history focuses on men anyway, but the ordinary faithfulness of individual men doesn&#039;t depend on position or calling. I&#039;ll bet there are such stories lying all over the landscape, if I just open my eyes to them.

Mark IV: Yes, usually I trip over these stories on the way to something else. When I scroll through a microfilm on the way to an item near the end, for instance, I often scan the materials filmed earlier on the reel, sometimes resulting in totally random discoveries. Or I&#039;ll realize that a woman is tangentially involved in an event I&#039;m researching for purposes aside from this series. Since I&#039;m convinced that everybody has a story anyway, all I need is a dramatic hook to build an article around, supplemented by the kind of research you might do into the life of any of your ancestors. In Sister Porter&#039;s case, I noticed a headline about the passing of the oldest member of the Church in Great Britain.

J: I thought you might want some citations, and I&#039;ll dig them out for you. Apart from routinely genealogical ones, the interesting sources are two or three letters written by a missionary sister to the RS Magazine and MStar.  I didn&#039;t know that dedication of graves was such a recent phenomenon -- it seems like I&#039;ve seen lots of references, but maybe I haven&#039;t noticed the time period. Without realizing there was anything unusual there, I would just take such references for granted. I&#039;ll notice from now on.

Herodotus: Thanks. I&#039;m enjoying your recent comments, too. It&#039;s amazing what community can be built among strangers with common ideals, even despite the use of pseudonyms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim F.: What do you say to a series of stories about men, too? I mean, about their lives as individual souls apart from their formal callings? I&#8217;ve been thinking about the concept of men&#8217;s history, which I know sounds redundant to a lot of people who think that history focuses on men anyway, but the ordinary faithfulness of individual men doesn&#8217;t depend on position or calling. I&#8217;ll bet there are such stories lying all over the landscape, if I just open my eyes to them.</p>
<p>Mark IV: Yes, usually I trip over these stories on the way to something else. When I scroll through a microfilm on the way to an item near the end, for instance, I often scan the materials filmed earlier on the reel, sometimes resulting in totally random discoveries. Or I&#8217;ll realize that a woman is tangentially involved in an event I&#8217;m researching for purposes aside from this series. Since I&#8217;m convinced that everybody has a story anyway, all I need is a dramatic hook to build an article around, supplemented by the kind of research you might do into the life of any of your ancestors. In Sister Porter&#8217;s case, I noticed a headline about the passing of the oldest member of the Church in Great Britain.</p>
<p>J: I thought you might want some citations, and I&#8217;ll dig them out for you. Apart from routinely genealogical ones, the interesting sources are two or three letters written by a missionary sister to the RS Magazine and MStar.  I didn&#8217;t know that dedication of graves was such a recent phenomenon &#8212; it seems like I&#8217;ve seen lots of references, but maybe I haven&#8217;t noticed the time period. Without realizing there was anything unusual there, I would just take such references for granted. I&#8217;ll notice from now on.</p>
<p>Herodotus: Thanks. I&#8217;m enjoying your recent comments, too. It&#8217;s amazing what community can be built among strangers with common ideals, even despite the use of pseudonyms.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should have read &quot;the first account that I have.&quot;  I would expect that there are accounts dating back to the 1830&#039;s that are waiting to be found or published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should have read &#8220;the first account that I have.&#8221;  I would expect that there are accounts dating back to the 1830&#8242;s that are waiting to be found or published.</p>
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		<title>By: Herodotus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herodotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoy these vignettes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoy these vignettes.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/11/johanna-tippett-porter-in-active-service-to-the-end/#comment-214130</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually surprised that they had a soldier come and dedicate the grave.  At that point in time the dedication of graves was not yet a priesthood ordinance (that was formalized in the subsequent decade or so).

I am actually quite pleased to hear about this indigenous sister saint (I may be pestering you for refs a little later, Ardis).   The first account of such a women anointing in England is actually a letter from Eliza Jane Merrick in the 1849 &lt;em&gt;Millennial Star&lt;/em&gt;.  The spreading of this praxis outside of the core body of Saints is something that hasn&#039;t received any attention.

Beautifully written, Ardis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually surprised that they had a soldier come and dedicate the grave.  At that point in time the dedication of graves was not yet a priesthood ordinance (that was formalized in the subsequent decade or so).</p>
<p>I am actually quite pleased to hear about this indigenous sister saint (I may be pestering you for refs a little later, Ardis).   The first account of such a women anointing in England is actually a letter from Eliza Jane Merrick in the 1849 <em>Millennial Star</em>.  The spreading of this praxis outside of the core body of Saints is something that hasn&#8217;t received any attention.</p>
<p>Beautifully written, Ardis.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 05:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ardis, I&#039;m interested to find out how you discover people like sister Porter.  Do you just happen to find them while you are looking for something else?  Common sense tells me that our people have stories like this by the thousands.  Where are they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ardis, I&#8217;m interested to find out how you discover people like sister Porter.  Do you just happen to find them while you are looking for something else?  Common sense tells me that our people have stories like this by the thousands.  Where are they?</p>
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