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		<title>By: TNMB</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/07/natural-succession-or-the-prophetic-death-card/#comment-231997</link>
		<dc:creator>TNMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talyor is supposed to be Taylor.  Posted way too soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talyor is supposed to be Taylor.  Posted way too soon!</p>
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		<title>By: TNMB</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/07/natural-succession-or-the-prophetic-death-card/#comment-231996</link>
		<dc:creator>TNMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George Teasdale was 17 years older than John Henry Smith so he wasn&#039;t a &quot;natural successor.&quot;  Also, you left off John Whittaker&#039;s last name (Talyor)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Teasdale was 17 years older than John Henry Smith so he wasn&#8217;t a &#8220;natural successor.&#8221;  Also, you left off John Whittaker&#8217;s last name (Talyor)</p>
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		<title>By: TNMB</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/07/natural-succession-or-the-prophetic-death-card/#comment-231995</link>
		<dc:creator>TNMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There should be an asterik by Benson&#039;s name.  He was 4 months younger than HBL</description>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/07/natural-succession-or-the-prophetic-death-card/#comment-209232</link>
		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YL, I&#039;ll probably be defending you against some fool in a few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YL, I&#8217;ll probably be defending you against some fool in a few years.</p>
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		<title>By: YL</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/07/natural-succession-or-the-prophetic-death-card/#comment-208659</link>
		<dc:creator>YL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>annegb 58:  YL, youâ€™re wrong about him. I was, too. He did go on a mission and he has a nice family. Heâ€™s simply a strong writer who doesnâ€™t suffer fools. He grows on ya  . Blogging, as I said, is not for the faint of heart.

You yourself said it in your comment 56:  &quot;Two years ago, people were accusing DKL of a lot more than that.&quot;  Thus, DKL has been doing his &quot;LOOK  AT  ME,  I&#039;M  SMARTER  THAN  YOU  ARE&quot; act for YEARS - and doing it at the expense and even serious hurt of others.  As I said in my previous comment 57, DKL resembles the cruel teenager who never outgrew it.  If I were a betting man, I would bet you that DKL did NOT go on a mission.  DKL&#039;s kind of irreverent, mocking, argumentative, even cruel attitude could not have hidden itself from priesthood leaders; DKL is the kind who wouldn&#039;t have wanted to hide it but would have displayed it in his efforts to appear smarter than everyone else. If I&#039;m wrong about DKL, then let him say that he went on a mission, or let him say that it wasn&#039;t his argumentative attitude that prevented him from going on a mission.

As far as DKL&#039;s having a nice family, I&#039;m sure he does.  Having been in leadership positions, I&#039;ve seen lots of families in which one person in the family does not live up to the standards of the rest of the family.  Haven&#039;t we all seen this?  You don&#039;t have to go very far into the Book of Mormon to learn this:  1 Nephi teaches us that 2 good parents like Lehi and Sariah can have a Laman and a Lemuel as well as a Nephi and a Jacob.  

Shouldn&#039;t we be far more willing &quot;to suffer fools&quot; than to suffer cruelty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>annegb 58:  YL, youâ€™re wrong about him. I was, too. He did go on a mission and he has a nice family. Heâ€™s simply a strong writer who doesnâ€™t suffer fools. He grows on ya  . Blogging, as I said, is not for the faint of heart.</p>
<p>You yourself said it in your comment 56:  &#8220;Two years ago, people were accusing DKL of a lot more than that.&#8221;  Thus, DKL has been doing his &#8220;LOOK  AT  ME,  I&#8217;M  SMARTER  THAN  YOU  ARE&#8221; act for YEARS &#8211; and doing it at the expense and even serious hurt of others.  As I said in my previous comment 57, DKL resembles the cruel teenager who never outgrew it.  If I were a betting man, I would bet you that DKL did NOT go on a mission.  DKL&#8217;s kind of irreverent, mocking, argumentative, even cruel attitude could not have hidden itself from priesthood leaders; DKL is the kind who wouldn&#8217;t have wanted to hide it but would have displayed it in his efforts to appear smarter than everyone else. If I&#8217;m wrong about DKL, then let him say that he went on a mission, or let him say that it wasn&#8217;t his argumentative attitude that prevented him from going on a mission.</p>
<p>As far as DKL&#8217;s having a nice family, I&#8217;m sure he does.  Having been in leadership positions, I&#8217;ve seen lots of families in which one person in the family does not live up to the standards of the rest of the family.  Haven&#8217;t we all seen this?  You don&#8217;t have to go very far into the Book of Mormon to learn this:  1 Nephi teaches us that 2 good parents like Lehi and Sariah can have a Laman and a Lemuel as well as a Nephi and a Jacob.  </p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t we be far more willing &#8220;to suffer fools&#8221; than to suffer cruelty?</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YL, you&#039;re wrong about him.  I was, too.  He did go on a mission and he has a nice family.  He&#039;s simply a strong writer who doesn&#039;t suffer fools.  He grows on ya :).  Blogging, as I said, is not for the faint of heart.  I&#039;ve threatened to beat up a lot of people and called people names and been yelled at.  We&#039;ve all bickered one time or another--well, except for Wilfried.  I&#039;ve behaved quite outrageously, to my immortal shame.  It&#039;s the nature of the beast.

Give yourself some time, you&#039;ll see that we are all good people.  We have in common that rather stubborn clinging to our point.  It&#039;s problematic.  In time, you could be one of &quot;ours&quot; as well.  It took me a long time to make friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YL, you&#8217;re wrong about him.  I was, too.  He did go on a mission and he has a nice family.  He&#8217;s simply a strong writer who doesn&#8217;t suffer fools.  He grows on ya :).  Blogging, as I said, is not for the faint of heart.  I&#8217;ve threatened to beat up a lot of people and called people names and been yelled at.  We&#8217;ve all bickered one time or another&#8211;well, except for Wilfried.  I&#8217;ve behaved quite outrageously, to my immortal shame.  It&#8217;s the nature of the beast.</p>
<p>Give yourself some time, you&#8217;ll see that we are all good people.  We have in common that rather stubborn clinging to our point.  It&#8217;s problematic.  In time, you could be one of &#8220;ours&#8221; as well.  It took me a long time to make friends.</p>
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		<title>By: YL</title>
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		<dc:creator>YL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>annegb 56: YL, give it time. Two years ago, people were accusing DKL of a lot more than that. I myself told him off a time or two. But heâ€™s a great guy, really. As are you, Iâ€™m sure. As is Kaimi. As is the whole world. Iâ€™m just a barrel of love tonight.

Thank you for the reply.  I&#039;m NOT [oops, I used CAPS] surprised that &quot;Two years ago, people were accusing DKL of a lot more than that.&quot;  LDS blogs [and church, for that matter] are an opportunity for LDS people to relate with Latter-day Saints all over the world in friendly ways.  One reason that prophets emphasize the concept of Zion is that:  in this world prophets often feel lonely and thus enjoy associating with people of their own values:  Zion.  LDS blogs are that same opportunity to LDS people feeling lonely in this world.  But DKL&#039;s comments remind me of the frequent cruelty of some high IQ teenagers who think they&#039;re smarter than everyone else - and who delight in belittling others and mocking sacred things.  And heaven help you if you&#039;re offended by his mockery and cruelty because - he says - that means you have no sense of humor or you take yourself or sacred things too seriously.  You have broken his first commandment:  Don&#039;t be stupid but be clever and witty.  We excuse such cruelty in thoughtless and immature teenagers; we figure they&#039;ll outgrow it.   But DKL is no longer a teenager.  Since DKL has identified himself as a father of children, that means he&#039;s been doing this cruelty since his teenage years.  My guess is that he never went on a misson because of his cleverness  and wit and argumentative attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>annegb 56: YL, give it time. Two years ago, people were accusing DKL of a lot more than that. I myself told him off a time or two. But heâ€™s a great guy, really. As are you, Iâ€™m sure. As is Kaimi. As is the whole world. Iâ€™m just a barrel of love tonight.</p>
<p>Thank you for the reply.  I&#8217;m NOT [oops, I used CAPS] surprised that &#8220;Two years ago, people were accusing DKL of a lot more than that.&#8221;  LDS blogs [and church, for that matter] are an opportunity for LDS people to relate with Latter-day Saints all over the world in friendly ways.  One reason that prophets emphasize the concept of Zion is that:  in this world prophets often feel lonely and thus enjoy associating with people of their own values:  Zion.  LDS blogs are that same opportunity to LDS people feeling lonely in this world.  But DKL&#8217;s comments remind me of the frequent cruelty of some high IQ teenagers who think they&#8217;re smarter than everyone else &#8211; and who delight in belittling others and mocking sacred things.  And heaven help you if you&#8217;re offended by his mockery and cruelty because &#8211; he says &#8211; that means you have no sense of humor or you take yourself or sacred things too seriously.  You have broken his first commandment:  Don&#8217;t be stupid but be clever and witty.  We excuse such cruelty in thoughtless and immature teenagers; we figure they&#8217;ll outgrow it.   But DKL is no longer a teenager.  Since DKL has identified himself as a father of children, that means he&#8217;s been doing this cruelty since his teenage years.  My guess is that he never went on a misson because of his cleverness  and wit and argumentative attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/07/natural-succession-or-the-prophetic-death-card/#comment-208385</link>
		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YL, give it time.  Two years ago, people were accusing DKL of a lot more than that.  I myself told him off a time or two.  But he&#039;s a great guy, really.  As are you, I&#039;m sure.  As is Kaimi.  As is the whole world.  I&#039;m just a barrel of love tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YL, give it time.  Two years ago, people were accusing DKL of a lot more than that.  I myself told him off a time or two.  But he&#8217;s a great guy, really.  As are you, I&#8217;m sure.  As is Kaimi.  As is the whole world.  I&#8217;m just a barrel of love tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: YL</title>
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		<dc:creator>YL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaimi,

Thanks for the feedback.  I do think, however, that it is &quot;condescending or rude&quot; [your words] to criticize a church president [Harold B. Lee] - especially when the subsequent prophet [Spencer W. Kimball] knew Harold B. Lee quite well, served with him for dozens of years, and made a doctrinal statement [Official Declaration 2 in D &amp; C] contradicting the criticism:   â€œpromises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us.â€? 

Regarding nearly all of my other &quot;half dozen comments,&quot; those comments were about someone, DKL, who has abused the purpose of LDS blogs and who has been the epitome of being &quot;condescending or rude.&quot;  

Notice that I did &quot;lay off the caps lock key&quot; except when typing the usually capitalized &quot;DKL&quot; &amp; &quot;LDS.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaimi,</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback.  I do think, however, that it is &#8220;condescending or rude&#8221; [your words] to criticize a church president [Harold B. Lee] &#8211; especially when the subsequent prophet [Spencer W. Kimball] knew Harold B. Lee quite well, served with him for dozens of years, and made a doctrinal statement [Official Declaration 2 in D &amp; C] contradicting the criticism:   â€œpromises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us.â€? </p>
<p>Regarding nearly all of my other &#8220;half dozen comments,&#8221; those comments were about someone, DKL, who has abused the purpose of LDS blogs and who has been the epitome of being &#8220;condescending or rude.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Notice that I did &#8220;lay off the caps lock key&#8221; except when typing the usually capitalized &#8220;DKL&#8221; &amp; &#8220;LDS.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaimi Wenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaimi Wenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YL,

You&#039;ve now made a half dozen comments on blog, and without exception they&#039;ve been condescending or rude to other commenters.  Calm down and lay off the caps lock key, it&#039;s a better way to participate in the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YL,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve now made a half dozen comments on blog, and without exception they&#8217;ve been condescending or rude to other commenters.  Calm down and lay off the caps lock key, it&#8217;s a better way to participate in the discussion.</p>
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