Comments on: “One afternoon in Amarillo” http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:49:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Nate Oman http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135530 Nate Oman Fri, 05 May 2006 12:59:28 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135530 Stealth: I think that the death of this thread has far more to do with the low quality of my post than with your comment. Please don't take it personally. I liked your post, BTW. Stealth: I think that the death of this thread has far more to do with the low quality of my post than with your comment. Please don’t take it personally. I liked your post, BTW.

]]> By: StealthBomber http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135528 StealthBomber Fri, 05 May 2006 12:56:34 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135528 Nate, Geeze. I didn't mean to be a thread killer. Nate,

Geeze. I didn’t mean to be a thread killer.

]]> By: StealthBomber http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135267 StealthBomber Thu, 04 May 2006 16:45:11 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135267 Nate, If I didn't know better I would think that you have lifted this post from my fledgling blog: http://stealthbomber.wordpress.com/2006/04/29/epistemology-in-faith-ironic-isnt/ [didn't mean to plug, the timing is uncanny]. Nate,

If I didn’t know better I would think that you have lifted this post from my fledgling blog: http://stealthbomber.wordpress.com/2006/04/29/epistemology-in-faith-ironic-isnt/

[didn't mean to plug, the timing is uncanny].

]]> By: Jim F. http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135263 Jim F. Thu, 04 May 2006 16:37:17 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135263 Edje: That is, perhaps, a cliche quotation, but it a cliche because it is so good, or at least almost-good. It would have been a lot better had Hegel not included the part about conception and reality being the same when reality is mature, for that means that when reality is mature, then conception "apprehends the real world in its substance, and shapes it into an intellectual kingdom." Lots of those who followed Hegel were to willing to assume that we are now in a position where philosophy can now shape the world into an intellectual kingdom, whether that philosophy is Marxist or neo-conservative or something in-between. Edje: That is, perhaps, a cliche quotation, but it a cliche because it is so good, or at least almost-good. It would have been a lot better had Hegel not included the part about conception and reality being the same when reality is mature, for that means that when reality is mature, then conception “apprehends the real world in its substance, and shapes it into an intellectual kingdom.” Lots of those who followed Hegel were to willing to assume that we are now in a position where philosophy can now shape the world into an intellectual kingdom, whether that philosophy is Marxist or neo-conservative or something in-between.

]]> By: Nate Oman http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135258 Nate Oman Thu, 04 May 2006 16:28:41 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135258 Aaron: Actually just out side of Amarillo. I would love to get from you her impressions of the afternoon. Email me. I've lost touch with her, unfortunately. Aaron: Actually just out side of Amarillo. I would love to get from you her impressions of the afternoon. Email me. I’ve lost touch with her, unfortunately.

]]> By: Edje http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135246 Edje Thu, 04 May 2006 16:05:24 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135246 I have nothing to add except (1) that I second queuno in the necessity of swinging by the cadillac ranch if one is in Amarillo and (2) that this post reminds me of Hegel's introduction to his Philosophy of Right (<a href="http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/pr/preface.htm" rel="nofollow">2nd to last paragraph</a>; this is, as I reckon, a cliché quote, but google only shows one reference to it in T&S (<a href="http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=2439#comment-85585" rel="nofollow">last July</a>), so I'm using it anyway): <em>Only one word more concerning the desire to teach the world what it ought to be. For such a purpose philosophy at least always comes too late. Philosophy, as the thought of the world, does not appear until reality has completed its formative process, and made itself ready. History thus corroborates the teaching of the conception that only in the maturity of reality does the ideal appear as counterpart to the real, apprehends the real world in its substance, and shapes it into an intellectual kingdom. When philosophy paints its grey in grey, one form of life has become old, and by means of grey it cannot be rejuvenated, but only known. The owl of Minerva, takes its flight only when the shades of night are gathering.</em> I have nothing to add except (1) that I second queuno in the necessity of swinging by the cadillac ranch if one is in Amarillo and (2) that this post reminds me of Hegel’s introduction to his Philosophy of Right (2nd to last paragraph; this is, as I reckon, a cliché quote, but google only shows one reference to it in T&S (last July), so I’m using it anyway):

Only one word more concerning the desire to teach the world what it ought to be. For such a purpose philosophy at least always comes too late. Philosophy, as the thought of the world, does not appear until reality has completed its formative process, and made itself ready. History thus corroborates the teaching of the conception that only in the maturity of reality does the ideal appear as counterpart to the real, apprehends the real world in its substance, and shapes it into an intellectual kingdom. When philosophy paints its grey in grey, one form of life has become old, and by means of grey it cannot be rejuvenated, but only known. The owl of Minerva, takes its flight only when the shades of night are gathering.

]]> By: Aaron Brown http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135244 Aaron Brown Thu, 04 May 2006 16:03:57 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135244 Nate -- I'm having deja vu. Your "BYU friend" from Texas was out visiting some of her HLS friends in L.A. about two years ago, and she happened to relate this same story. (I can't remember why it came up). For what it's worth, I didn't come away with the impression that a "train wreck" had necessarily ensued, from her perspective. And I didn't realize she lived in Amarillo. Yuck. Aaron B Nate –

I’m having deja vu. Your “BYU friend” from Texas was out visiting some of her HLS friends in L.A. about two years ago, and she happened to relate this same story. (I can’t remember why it came up). For what it’s worth, I didn’t come away with the impression that a “train wreck” had necessarily ensued, from her perspective.

And I didn’t realize she lived in Amarillo. Yuck.

Aaron B

]]> By: Kimball L. Hunt http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135113 Kimball L. Hunt Thu, 04 May 2006 03:47:26 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135113 The reason I like your stories, Nate, is caus of their polyphonies of faith - with reason. The reason I like your stories, Nate, is caus of their polyphonies of faith – with reason.

]]> By: James M http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135095 James M Thu, 04 May 2006 03:03:43 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135095 Although it's not really a country-western song, Aaron Neville and Linda Ronstadt sing a song about your topic called Don't Know Much. You probably heard it on your last trip to the dentist office. Although I hate the song, it's the first thing that popped into my head when I read your post. Look at this face I know the years are showin’ Look at this life I still don’t know where it’s goin’ I don’t know much But I know I love you And that may be All I need to know Look at these eyes They never seen what mattered Look at these dreams So beaten and so battered I don’t know much But I know I love you And that may be All I need to know So many questions Still left unanswered So much I’ve never broken through And when I feel you near me Sometimes I see so clearly The only truth I’ve ever known Is me and you Look at this man So blessed with inspiration Look at this soul Still searching for salvation I don’t know much But I know I love you And that may be All I need to know I don’t know much But I know I love you That may be All I need to know I don’t know much But I know I love you That may be All there is to know, Although it’s not really a country-western song, Aaron Neville and Linda Ronstadt sing a song about your topic called Don’t Know Much. You probably heard it on your last trip to the dentist office. Although I hate the song, it’s the first thing that popped into my head when I read your post.

Look at this face
I know the years are showin’
Look at this life
I still don’t know where it’s goin’

I don’t know much
But I know I love you
And that may be
All I need to know

Look at these eyes
They never seen what mattered
Look at these dreams
So beaten and so battered

I don’t know much
But I know I love you
And that may be
All I need to know

So many questions
Still left unanswered
So much
I’ve never broken through

And when I feel you near me
Sometimes I see so clearly
The only truth I’ve ever known
Is me and you

Look at this man
So blessed with inspiration
Look at this soul
Still searching for salvation

I don’t know much
But I know I love you
And that may be
All I need to know

I don’t know much
But I know I love you
That may be
All I need to know

I don’t know much
But I know I love you
That may be
All there is to know,

]]> By: queuno http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/05/one-afternoon-in-amarillo/#comment-135061 queuno Thu, 04 May 2006 00:47:50 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=3126#comment-135061 Gotta ask, though -- when you were in Amarillo, were you eating at the Big Texan? Did you take a stab at the 72-oz steak? If you can eat the steak, the potato, the salad, the shrimp cocktail, and the roll in an hour, it's free... They limit you to one attempt a month, and the urban legend is that the rule was instituted because two Samoan elders used to go there every P-day and beat the challenge. And if you're driving through Amarillo on I-40, you've *got* to stop and see the Cadillac Ranch. Gotta ask, though — when you were in Amarillo, were you eating at the Big Texan? Did you take a stab at the 72-oz steak? If you can eat the steak, the potato, the salad, the shrimp cocktail, and the roll in an hour, it’s free…

They limit you to one attempt a month, and the urban legend is that the rule was instituted because two Samoan elders used to go there every P-day and beat the challenge.

And if you’re driving through Amarillo on I-40, you’ve *got* to stop and see the Cadillac Ranch.

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