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	<title>Comments on: Gospel Doctrine Lesson 3&#8230; with an evolution twist&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: BAH 666</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/01/lesson-3-with-a-twist/#comment-118524</link>
		<dc:creator>BAH 666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I see it,  there&#039;s plenty of evidence of pre-Adamites.  And you don&#039;t need scriptural or scientific inference.  Look at the worlds population.  One quarter of all the humans on this earth are Chinese.  And they are definitly NOT decendants of Adam and Eve because they DON&#039;T have a knowledge of good and evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it,  there&#8217;s plenty of evidence of pre-Adamites.  And you don&#8217;t need scriptural or scientific inference.  Look at the worlds population.  One quarter of all the humans on this earth are Chinese.  And they are definitly NOT decendants of Adam and Eve because they DON&#8217;T have a knowledge of good and evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Sandler</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/01/lesson-3-with-a-twist/#comment-118523</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Sandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!  What the heck are all you guys talking about anyway.  None of what you&#039;ve said is in the scriptures.  It&#039;s all just speculation!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!  What the heck are all you guys talking about anyway.  None of what you&#8217;ve said is in the scriptures.  It&#8217;s all just speculation!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Osborn</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/01/lesson-3-with-a-twist/#comment-117726</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Osborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I get the point. see ya all on another post. bye now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I get the point. see ya all on another post. bye now</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Giliam</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/01/lesson-3-with-a-twist/#comment-117724</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Giliam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s not Geoff, I&#039;m wondering if it might be Christian again.  Compare:

&quot;I just pinched myselfâ€¦owâ€¦.ya Iâ€™m real, no pinochio stuff here folks.&quot;  - Rob

&quot;You can grab your computer screen with both hands. Or even print out this post. And heft the screen or the print out in your hands, tangible proof. For if I did not exist all my posts would have vanished away.&quot; - Aaron Cox

Coincidence?  I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s not Geoff, I&#8217;m wondering if it might be Christian again.  Compare:</p>
<p>&#8220;I just pinched myselfâ€¦owâ€¦.ya Iâ€™m real, no pinochio stuff here folks.&#8221;  &#8211; Rob</p>
<p>&#8220;You can grab your computer screen with both hands. Or even print out this post. And heft the screen or the print out in your hands, tangible proof. For if I did not exist all my posts would have vanished away.&#8221; &#8211; Aaron Cox</p>
<p>Coincidence?  I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/01/lesson-3-with-a-twist/#comment-117720</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any good reason for those who disagree with Rob Osborn to continue to argue with him--and vice versa? This is an obvious case of a non-conversation on its way nowhere. Why waste the storage space on the server?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any good reason for those who disagree with Rob Osborn to continue to argue with him&#8211;and vice versa? This is an obvious case of a non-conversation on its way nowhere. Why waste the storage space on the server?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Osborn</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/01/lesson-3-with-a-twist/#comment-117718</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Osborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 06:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do hold the BoM to the same standard. The difference is that I don&#039;t use the same stadards like those at  F.A.R.M.S. uses to provide evidence for the book and it&#039;s past occupants in history (long story....don&#039;t ask).

I believe there is more than ample evidence for the BoM in the Americas. The problem with the scientific evidence blasting the BoM is that it is the same science that doesn&#039;t believe in Noah and blasts the bible and it&#039;s patriarchs also.

At least with the BoM, we have witness that swore to God they had seen them. With science there are only hoaxes when it comes to cavemen skulls. 

Comparing standards of judging the BoM and science together are both related to faith though, there are just some things that are hidden from view. The difference is though, if I believe modern theories of our origins from apes then I have to put my trust in a monkey for my father rather than God our eternal Father, remember modern science has no room for God- that&#039;s religion.

FRom a purely logical point of view, there is more room for evidence that we were divinely created 6000 years ago from a God rather than being evolved over millions of years to become where we are now. 

Julie,

I sure hope that You don&#039;t see the BoM as lacking evidence for it&#039;s truth and existance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do hold the BoM to the same standard. The difference is that I don&#8217;t use the same stadards like those at  F.A.R.M.S. uses to provide evidence for the book and it&#8217;s past occupants in history (long story&#8230;.don&#8217;t ask).</p>
<p>I believe there is more than ample evidence for the BoM in the Americas. The problem with the scientific evidence blasting the BoM is that it is the same science that doesn&#8217;t believe in Noah and blasts the bible and it&#8217;s patriarchs also.</p>
<p>At least with the BoM, we have witness that swore to God they had seen them. With science there are only hoaxes when it comes to cavemen skulls. </p>
<p>Comparing standards of judging the BoM and science together are both related to faith though, there are just some things that are hidden from view. The difference is though, if I believe modern theories of our origins from apes then I have to put my trust in a monkey for my father rather than God our eternal Father, remember modern science has no room for God- that&#8217;s religion.</p>
<p>FRom a purely logical point of view, there is more room for evidence that we were divinely created 6000 years ago from a God rather than being evolved over millions of years to become where we are now. </p>
<p>Julie,</p>
<p>I sure hope that You don&#8217;t see the BoM as lacking evidence for it&#8217;s truth and existance.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie M. Smith</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/01/lesson-3-with-a-twist/#comment-117710</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie M. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is quite interesting that we talk about these pre-human cavelike guys that supposedly came before man and yet science has yet to provide ONE complete or even semi-complete skeletal reamains that coincide with their diagrams and pictures they have made up. There is no such thing, no not one satisfactory piece of evidence and yet they say that there is more than enough evidence now that it is factual- nonsense, donâ€™t believe it!&quot;

One only hopes that you don&#039;t hold the BoM to the same standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is quite interesting that we talk about these pre-human cavelike guys that supposedly came before man and yet science has yet to provide ONE complete or even semi-complete skeletal reamains that coincide with their diagrams and pictures they have made up. There is no such thing, no not one satisfactory piece of evidence and yet they say that there is more than enough evidence now that it is factual- nonsense, donâ€™t believe it!&#8221;</p>
<p>One only hopes that you don&#8217;t hold the BoM to the same standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Osborn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Osborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just pinched myself...ow....ya I&#039;m real, no pinochio stuff here folks. Baby stories eh?That&#039;s good, I like that, stuff so simple even babies understand, now that&#039;s real godstuff there.

millions upon millions of species, ya theres another great myth. There definition of species is having 30 different species of milk cows. And let&#039;s not even get into the plants. When God put greenery on the earth he used actual seeds, which as far as my understanding goes, you cannot create a seed in evolution terms from nothing without there first being a plant to produce it. 

I have given my evidence, wheres yours for proving that the global flood never happened? 

Embarrassed? wait until we meet Noah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just pinched myself&#8230;ow&#8230;.ya I&#8217;m real, no pinochio stuff here folks. Baby stories eh?That&#8217;s good, I like that, stuff so simple even babies understand, now that&#8217;s real godstuff there.</p>
<p>millions upon millions of species, ya theres another great myth. There definition of species is having 30 different species of milk cows. And let&#8217;s not even get into the plants. When God put greenery on the earth he used actual seeds, which as far as my understanding goes, you cannot create a seed in evolution terms from nothing without there first being a plant to produce it. </p>
<p>I have given my evidence, wheres yours for proving that the global flood never happened? </p>
<p>Embarrassed? wait until we meet Noah!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2006/01/lesson-3-with-a-twist/#comment-117647</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff J.,

I&#039;ve seen Rob comment before a few times, so I&#039;m pretty sure he&#039;s real.  Or, maybe we&#039;re the same person!  (Ahhhhhhh!)

I&#039;ll be sure and check out your allegory post when I have a bit more time, then I can more fully dismantle it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff J.,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen Rob comment before a few times, so I&#8217;m pretty sure he&#8217;s real.  Or, maybe we&#8217;re the same person!  (Ahhhhhhh!)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be sure and check out your allegory post when I have a bit more time, then I can more fully dismantle it. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW Tim -- I put up &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2006/01/happiness-and-the-fall/198/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a post today&lt;/a&gt; that begins to flesh out this Garden of Eden as allegory idea as you requested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW Tim &#8212; I put up <a href="http://www.newcoolthang.com/index.php/2006/01/happiness-and-the-fall/198/" rel="nofollow">a post today</a> that begins to flesh out this Garden of Eden as allegory idea as you requested.</p>
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