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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111595</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Target is now going to re-instroduce Christmas into their advertising: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47838</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Target is now going to re-instroduce Christmas into their advertising: <a href="http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47838" rel="nofollow">http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47838</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111435</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about, Merry Holychristdaysmas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about, Merry Holychristdaysmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111434</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using &quot;Happy Holidays&quot; rather than &quot;Merry Christmas&quot; also means they can extend the use of that sign for New Year&#039;s. That&#039;s usually what I think of when someone says &quot;Happy Holidays&quot;--oh, they mean New Year&#039;s as well. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using &#8220;Happy Holidays&#8221; rather than &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; also means they can extend the use of that sign for New Year&#8217;s. That&#8217;s usually what I think of when someone says &#8220;Happy Holidays&#8221;&#8211;oh, they mean New Year&#8217;s as well. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chance</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111288</link>
		<dc:creator>Chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how the three major Christian holidays have all had their meaning written over by fictional characters and unrelated traditions.  We now recognize the Easter Bunny and Santa ahead of the Savior in the spring and winter.  In the fall we recognize Buzz Lightyear and the Red Ranger ahead of all saints (in both act and date as Hallows Day is 11/1).  At the risk of sounding like a zealot, why have we allowed the adversary to erase the symbols of Holy days with egg laying bunnies and sugar plum fairies?  

What has occurred over the past 15 years in the US?  When did it become so incorrect to openly recognize and celebrate ones Christian religion (and religious heritage), yet at the same time recognize and celebrate others for the sake of embrace and non-offense?  Why can I wish someone a Happy Hanukah, yet I cannot wish someone Merry Christmas?  We used to be a God fearing people, now our nation lives in fear of offending others.  I realize that as our nation was built upon Christianity it was also built upon the freedom of choice and religion, but I suddenly find my choice of religion is offensive to others, even those of the same sect!

I read yesterday that the Giving Tree at Medina Elementary, WA was replaced with the Giving Counter because a parent complained of the religious implications of the tree.  A tree!  Arenâ€™t trees pagan by the way?  So even the re-writes that we have made are being re-written even further to replace the memory of any reason as to why we are celebrating.  Who wants to give to a Giving Counter any ways?

As for Target, I canâ€™t blame them.  Itâ€™s a publicly traded business that employs and services people from across the spectrum.  I can even understand the removal of the Bell Ringers as they cannot exclude every other organization from fund raising and allow only the Salvation Army.  In return Target does offer an outstanding grant program. 

Time to quit before I get emotional.

Merry Christmas to all!

Chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how the three major Christian holidays have all had their meaning written over by fictional characters and unrelated traditions.  We now recognize the Easter Bunny and Santa ahead of the Savior in the spring and winter.  In the fall we recognize Buzz Lightyear and the Red Ranger ahead of all saints (in both act and date as Hallows Day is 11/1).  At the risk of sounding like a zealot, why have we allowed the adversary to erase the symbols of Holy days with egg laying bunnies and sugar plum fairies?  </p>
<p>What has occurred over the past 15 years in the US?  When did it become so incorrect to openly recognize and celebrate ones Christian religion (and religious heritage), yet at the same time recognize and celebrate others for the sake of embrace and non-offense?  Why can I wish someone a Happy Hanukah, yet I cannot wish someone Merry Christmas?  We used to be a God fearing people, now our nation lives in fear of offending others.  I realize that as our nation was built upon Christianity it was also built upon the freedom of choice and religion, but I suddenly find my choice of religion is offensive to others, even those of the same sect!</p>
<p>I read yesterday that the Giving Tree at Medina Elementary, WA was replaced with the Giving Counter because a parent complained of the religious implications of the tree.  A tree!  Arenâ€™t trees pagan by the way?  So even the re-writes that we have made are being re-written even further to replace the memory of any reason as to why we are celebrating.  Who wants to give to a Giving Counter any ways?</p>
<p>As for Target, I canâ€™t blame them.  Itâ€™s a publicly traded business that employs and services people from across the spectrum.  I can even understand the removal of the Bell Ringers as they cannot exclude every other organization from fund raising and allow only the Salvation Army.  In return Target does offer an outstanding grant program. </p>
<p>Time to quit before I get emotional.</p>
<p>Merry Christmas to all!</p>
<p>Chance</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111282</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pioneer Day is recent, compared to Christmas--which wasn&#039;t celebrated much in the US before the 19th Century.  There was apparently more resistance to its celebration in the north, whereas the south was more Christmasy (despite the lack of snow and Jack Frost nipping at one&#039;s toes or nose).  

It became an official state holiday in Alabama in 1836 (but those laws protected slavery too), but did not become a national holiday until 1870.

So, Christmas Day may beat Pioneer Day by a nose, but Pioneer Day is way ahead of Decoration (now Memorial) Day--post Civil War, Thanksgiving Day (as a national holiday if you ignore the South)--mid Civil War, Armistice (now Veterans) Day--post WW1, Labor Day, Dominion (now Canada) Day, 1870.  And so on.

On to the Feats of Strength!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pioneer Day is recent, compared to Christmas&#8211;which wasn&#8217;t celebrated much in the US before the 19th Century.  There was apparently more resistance to its celebration in the north, whereas the south was more Christmasy (despite the lack of snow and Jack Frost nipping at one&#8217;s toes or nose).  </p>
<p>It became an official state holiday in Alabama in 1836 (but those laws protected slavery too), but did not become a national holiday until 1870.</p>
<p>So, Christmas Day may beat Pioneer Day by a nose, but Pioneer Day is way ahead of Decoration (now Memorial) Day&#8211;post Civil War, Thanksgiving Day (as a national holiday if you ignore the South)&#8211;mid Civil War, Armistice (now Veterans) Day&#8211;post WW1, Labor Day, Dominion (now Canada) Day, 1870.  And so on.</p>
<p>On to the Feats of Strength!</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111274</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 19:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha.  Thanks for the clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha.  Thanks for the clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111269</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Arben Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They are just selling items for more than one holiday. There is a difference.&quot;

I agree--that&#039;s why I said in my comment above that I can&#039;t imagine anyone being hurt by Target talking about a &quot;holiday sale&quot; as opposed to a Christmas sale. Commerce isn&#039;t where cultural particularity gets passed on; it has different aims, and I don&#039;t begrudge them pursuing those aims one bit. Sorry if I didn&#039;t make that clear. It&#039;s in the schools and other civic spaces where I see this as more important, and even then there are compromises that ought to made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They are just selling items for more than one holiday. There is a difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree&#8211;that&#8217;s why I said in my comment above that I can&#8217;t imagine anyone being hurt by Target talking about a &#8220;holiday sale&#8221; as opposed to a Christmas sale. Commerce isn&#8217;t where cultural particularity gets passed on; it has different aims, and I don&#8217;t begrudge them pursuing those aims one bit. Sorry if I didn&#8217;t make that clear. It&#8217;s in the schools and other civic spaces where I see this as more important, and even then there are compromises that ought to made.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111267</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Russell - Target is not trying to change the name of Christmas.  They still call Christmas trees Christmas trees.  They just say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas so that they can include more than one holiday under that umbrella.  They are trying to sell as much stuff to each group of people who celebrate each holiday celebrated in that time period as possible - whatever it may be.  Instead of a Christmas sale, it&#039;s a Holiday sale, which is actually more accurate.  There ARE more holidays than just Christmas celebrated in December.  They aren&#039;t changing the names of the Christmas items they sell.  They aren&#039;t changing the name of the menorrahs (sp?) they sell either. They are just selling items for more than one holiday.  There is a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Russell &#8211; Target is not trying to change the name of Christmas.  They still call Christmas trees Christmas trees.  They just say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas so that they can include more than one holiday under that umbrella.  They are trying to sell as much stuff to each group of people who celebrate each holiday celebrated in that time period as possible &#8211; whatever it may be.  Instead of a Christmas sale, it&#8217;s a Holiday sale, which is actually more accurate.  There ARE more holidays than just Christmas celebrated in December.  They aren&#8217;t changing the names of the Christmas items they sell.  They aren&#8217;t changing the name of the menorrahs (sp?) they sell either. They are just selling items for more than one holiday.  There is a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111265</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in researching Kwanzaa, it bugged me when I discovered it was likely originally intended to be a way of getting African-Americans to embrace communistic principles.  However, the Holiday seems to have taken on a life of its own and in practice does not replace Christmas.  It seems a fine holiday to me - Holidays gotta start somewhere, after all.

Festivus - now that&#039;s a holdiay that needs to gain wider cultural acceptance.

Haunakkah, Festivus, Kwanzaa, Christmas, New Years - what other holidays are there out there during this time of year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in researching Kwanzaa, it bugged me when I discovered it was likely originally intended to be a way of getting African-Americans to embrace communistic principles.  However, the Holiday seems to have taken on a life of its own and in practice does not replace Christmas.  It seems a fine holiday to me &#8211; Holidays gotta start somewhere, after all.</p>
<p>Festivus &#8211; now that&#8217;s a holdiay that needs to gain wider cultural acceptance.</p>
<p>Haunakkah, Festivus, Kwanzaa, Christmas, New Years &#8211; what other holidays are there out there during this time of year?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidH</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/merry-christmas/#comment-111263</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the appropriate greeting for Yom Kippur is &quot;Have an easy fast.&quot;  Perhaps we should also use that greeting with each other on each Saturday before Fast Sunday.

For what it is worth, I do not extend Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur greetings unless I know the person is Jewish.  My Jewish friends who wish me a Merry Christmas do so because they know I am Christian.  I appreciate their good wishes, and I hope they appreciate mine around their holidays/holy days. Unfortunately, I do not have any close Islamic, Buddhist or Hindu friends, and do not know the appropriate greetings for their holy days/holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the appropriate greeting for Yom Kippur is &#8220;Have an easy fast.&#8221;  Perhaps we should also use that greeting with each other on each Saturday before Fast Sunday.</p>
<p>For what it is worth, I do not extend Rosh Hashanah or Yom Kippur greetings unless I know the person is Jewish.  My Jewish friends who wish me a Merry Christmas do so because they know I am Christian.  I appreciate their good wishes, and I hope they appreciate mine around their holidays/holy days. Unfortunately, I do not have any close Islamic, Buddhist or Hindu friends, and do not know the appropriate greetings for their holy days/holidays.</p>
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