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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/12/december-into-may-two-christmas-poems/#comment-113460</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  Another &quot;Words of One Syllable&quot; department from &lt;i&gt;The New Yorker&lt;/i&gt;.

In the penultimate line of my comment, insert &quot;not&quot; after &quot;surely.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops.  Another &#8220;Words of One Syllable&#8221; department from <i>The New Yorker</i>.</p>
<p>In the penultimate line of my comment, insert &#8220;not&#8221; after &#8220;surely.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Greenwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 04:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Kristine.  I&#039;m reminded of my daughter&#039;s birth 21 Decembers past, when I walked the mile from Long Island College Hospital to our home in shirtsleeves--truly another December turned May.

I&#039;ll be charitable, because, &lt;i&gt;doggonit&lt;/i&gt;, people, including me, like you.  But I am reminded of Hotspur&#039;s tweaking (too gentle a word for what he did, eh?) of Glendower, when the Welshman boasted that 

                                         at my nativity
The front of heaven was full of fiery shapes,
Of burning cressets; and at my birth
The frame and huge foundation of the earth
Shaked like a coward.

HOTSPUR 
Why, so it would have done at the same season, if
your mother&#039;s cat had but kittened, though yourself
had never been born.

GLENDOWER 
I say the earth did shake when I was born.

HOTSPUR 
And I say the earth was not of my mind,
If you suppose as fearing you it shook.

GLENDOWER 
The heavens were all on fire, the earth did tremble.

HOTSPUR 
O, then the earth shook to see the heavens on fire,
And not in fear of your nativity.
Diseased nature oftentimes breaks forth
In strange eruptions; oft the teeming earth
Is with a kind of colic pinch&#039;d and vex&#039;d
By the imprisoning of unruly wind
Within her womb; which, for enlargement striving,
Shakes the old beldam earth and topples down
Steeples and moss-grown towers. At your birth
Our grandam earth, having this distemperature,
In passion shook.

GLENDOWER 
Cousin, of many men
I do not bear these crossings. Give me leave
To tell you once again that at my birth
The front of heaven was full of fiery shapes,
The goats ran from the mountains, and the herds
Were strangely clamorous to the frighted fields.
These signs have mark&#039;d me extraordinary;
And all the courses of my life do show
I am not in the roll of common men.
Where is he living, clipp&#039;d in with the sea
That chides the banks of England, Scotland, Wales,
Which calls me pupil, or hath read to me?
And bring him out that is but woman&#039;s son
Can trace me in the tedious ways of art
And hold me pace in deep experiments.

HOTSPUR 
I think there&#039;s no man speaks better Welsh.
I&#039;ll to dinner.

(Henry IV, Part I, III, i)                                      

The &quot;miracles&quot; at Glendower&#039;s birth may have been coincidence, but surely those at your daughter&#039;s, Kristine.  

Merry Christmas to you and yours!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Kristine.  I&#8217;m reminded of my daughter&#8217;s birth 21 Decembers past, when I walked the mile from Long Island College Hospital to our home in shirtsleeves&#8211;truly another December turned May.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be charitable, because, <i>doggonit</i>, people, including me, like you.  But I am reminded of Hotspur&#8217;s tweaking (too gentle a word for what he did, eh?) of Glendower, when the Welshman boasted that </p>
<p>                                         at my nativity<br />
The front of heaven was full of fiery shapes,<br />
Of burning cressets; and at my birth<br />
The frame and huge foundation of the earth<br />
Shaked like a coward.</p>
<p>HOTSPUR<br />
Why, so it would have done at the same season, if<br />
your mother&#8217;s cat had but kittened, though yourself<br />
had never been born.</p>
<p>GLENDOWER<br />
I say the earth did shake when I was born.</p>
<p>HOTSPUR<br />
And I say the earth was not of my mind,<br />
If you suppose as fearing you it shook.</p>
<p>GLENDOWER<br />
The heavens were all on fire, the earth did tremble.</p>
<p>HOTSPUR<br />
O, then the earth shook to see the heavens on fire,<br />
And not in fear of your nativity.<br />
Diseased nature oftentimes breaks forth<br />
In strange eruptions; oft the teeming earth<br />
Is with a kind of colic pinch&#8217;d and vex&#8217;d<br />
By the imprisoning of unruly wind<br />
Within her womb; which, for enlargement striving,<br />
Shakes the old beldam earth and topples down<br />
Steeples and moss-grown towers. At your birth<br />
Our grandam earth, having this distemperature,<br />
In passion shook.</p>
<p>GLENDOWER<br />
Cousin, of many men<br />
I do not bear these crossings. Give me leave<br />
To tell you once again that at my birth<br />
The front of heaven was full of fiery shapes,<br />
The goats ran from the mountains, and the herds<br />
Were strangely clamorous to the frighted fields.<br />
These signs have mark&#8217;d me extraordinary;<br />
And all the courses of my life do show<br />
I am not in the roll of common men.<br />
Where is he living, clipp&#8217;d in with the sea<br />
That chides the banks of England, Scotland, Wales,<br />
Which calls me pupil, or hath read to me?<br />
And bring him out that is but woman&#8217;s son<br />
Can trace me in the tedious ways of art<br />
And hold me pace in deep experiments.</p>
<p>HOTSPUR<br />
I think there&#8217;s no man speaks better Welsh.<br />
I&#8217;ll to dinner.</p>
<p>(Henry IV, Part I, III, i)                                      </p>
<p>The &#8220;miracles&#8221; at Glendower&#8217;s birth may have been coincidence, but surely those at your daughter&#8217;s, Kristine.  </p>
<p>Merry Christmas to you and yours!</p>
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		<title>By: TA</title>
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		<dc:creator>TA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 04:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christmas Poem
Untitled

when were young
we sterilized formula
and were very careful
about dangerous germs---
in the hospital people could only
see the babies through GLASS

isnâ€™t it interesting that men
who were busy all day
delivering ewes
returning wayward lambs
to their mothers
who petted sheep dogs and
led their flocks into pastures
green
whose simple voices lost sheep
recognized and trusted
because of their
loving kindness
and caring protection-

isnâ€™t it interesting that these
dirty, dusty, weary men should
receive the most terrifyingly
beautiful invitation
ever given
by the Lord God Almighty Himself
to be the FIRST to see His Son
our Savior
born the same day---
the bible says they â€œmade hasteâ€?

God knew they didnâ€™t have time
to wash their hands and maybe
they even got to hold Him!

-Unknown, 2002</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas Poem<br />
Untitled</p>
<p>when were young<br />
we sterilized formula<br />
and were very careful<br />
about dangerous germs&#8212;<br />
in the hospital people could only<br />
see the babies through GLASS</p>
<p>isnâ€™t it interesting that men<br />
who were busy all day<br />
delivering ewes<br />
returning wayward lambs<br />
to their mothers<br />
who petted sheep dogs and<br />
led their flocks into pastures<br />
green<br />
whose simple voices lost sheep<br />
recognized and trusted<br />
because of their<br />
loving kindness<br />
and caring protection-</p>
<p>isnâ€™t it interesting that these<br />
dirty, dusty, weary men should<br />
receive the most terrifyingly<br />
beautiful invitation<br />
ever given<br />
by the Lord God Almighty Himself<br />
to be the FIRST to see His Son<br />
our Savior<br />
born the same day&#8212;<br />
the bible says they â€œmade hasteâ€?</p>
<p>God knew they didnâ€™t have time<br />
to wash their hands and maybe<br />
they even got to hold Him!</p>
<p>-Unknown, 2002</p>
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		<title>By: Ben H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what is so dizzying, that alongside monstrosity, there are miracles! Thank you, Kristine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what is so dizzying, that alongside monstrosity, there are miracles! Thank you, Kristine.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaimi Wenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaimi Wenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 00:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Kris.  Merry Christmas, to you and yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Kris.  Merry Christmas, to you and yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post, as your posts always do, brings me hope.  Merry Christmas, Kristine, and thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post, as your posts always do, brings me hope.  Merry Christmas, Kristine, and thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Arben Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard prophets testify of far slighter justifications for divine intervention, Kristine--not that the birth of a child is at all a slight event! As far as I&#039;m concerned, you and Lulu can properly consider that one Philadelphia November an early Christmas miracle. Thanks for this gorgeous post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard prophets testify of far slighter justifications for divine intervention, Kristine&#8211;not that the birth of a child is at all a slight event! As far as I&#8217;m concerned, you and Lulu can properly consider that one Philadelphia November an early Christmas miracle. Thanks for this gorgeous post.</p>
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		<title>By: D. Fletcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristine! SO happy so read your posts, as always. Have a wonderful Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine! SO happy so read your posts, as always. Have a wonderful Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine Haglund Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine Haglund Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before anyone feels terribly offended by my &lt;em&gt;quelling&lt;/em&gt;  about my daughter, let me say that I&#039;m not actually sure that her birth was important enough to warrant divine intervention in Philadelphia&#039;s weather, and I could accept a more naturalistic explanation for that phenomenon!  Still, I think it illustrates the general lesson, and I think it&#039;s important to  find it *possible* to believe that God might have wanted to decorate the forsythia for Lulu&#039;s homecoming.  Still, I recognize the danger of thinking that events are regularly orchestrated for my (or anyone&#039;s) particular benefit--surely every child&#039;s birth deserves miraculous recognition, and the logic of my joy in the quirky weather can become something monstrous, if taken to its extreme.  But it&#039;s Christmas, and I got a D in logic, so please read charitably!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before anyone feels terribly offended by my <em>quelling</em>  about my daughter, let me say that I&#8217;m not actually sure that her birth was important enough to warrant divine intervention in Philadelphia&#8217;s weather, and I could accept a more naturalistic explanation for that phenomenon!  Still, I think it illustrates the general lesson, and I think it&#8217;s important to  find it *possible* to believe that God might have wanted to decorate the forsythia for Lulu&#8217;s homecoming.  Still, I recognize the danger of thinking that events are regularly orchestrated for my (or anyone&#8217;s) particular benefit&#8211;surely every child&#8217;s birth deserves miraculous recognition, and the logic of my joy in the quirky weather can become something monstrous, if taken to its extreme.  But it&#8217;s Christmas, and I got a D in logic, so please read charitably!</p>
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