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	<title>Comments on: Weeping, Singing, Remembering&#8211;A November Homily</title>
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		<title>By: Jim F</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/11/weeping-singing-remembering-a-november-homily/#comment-106388</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristine, if I ever am asked to speak at Thanksgiving, I&#039;m likely merely to steal your talk. I&#039;ll give you credit, of course, but I&#039;ll just read it over the pulpit and sit down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine, if I ever am asked to speak at Thanksgiving, I&#8217;m likely merely to steal your talk. I&#8217;ll give you credit, of course, but I&#8217;ll just read it over the pulpit and sit down.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine Haglund Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine Haglund Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Donne quotation is from his sermon on Christmas Eve, 1624.  You can find more sermons online here: http://www.lib.byu.edu/donne/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Donne quotation is from his sermon on Christmas Eve, 1624.  You can find more sermons online here: <a href="http://www.lib.byu.edu/donne/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lib.byu.edu/donne/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark IV</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/11/weeping-singing-remembering-a-november-homily/#comment-105957</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark IV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanksgiving has always been my favorite holiday, even though I know that Christmas is more important.  So I like how your thoughts here have tied them together into one long celebration.

I also enjoy the words you quote from John Donne.  Can you place his words in context?  I assume they are taken from an essay, do you know which one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanksgiving has always been my favorite holiday, even though I know that Christmas is more important.  So I like how your thoughts here have tied them together into one long celebration.</p>
<p>I also enjoy the words you quote from John Donne.  Can you place his words in context?  I assume they are taken from an essay, do you know which one?</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Kristine. I wish you were in my ward.  This is beautiful.  

I had never read the Donne quote before, and this part I loved: &quot;God never sayes you should have come yesterday, he never sayes you must again to morrow, but to day if you will heare his voice, to day he will heare you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Kristine. I wish you were in my ward.  This is beautiful.  </p>
<p>I had never read the Donne quote before, and this part I loved: &#8220;God never sayes you should have come yesterday, he never sayes you must again to morrow, but to day if you will heare his voice, to day he will heare you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Kristine dwells too much on her mother&#039;s use of some of those songs from her childhood.  Granted, they are less than stirring or inspirational but benefitted me when I was a young boy.  It was &quot;Count Your Blessings&quot; and &quot;Put Your Shoulder To The Wheel&quot; that caused me to discover the love of singing in our meetings.  They were upbeat, had a certain lilt and meter that appealed to me then. But now as a very senior adult, my appreciation has been a process and we have many well written and arranged hyms of the restoration and of the message of Christ and living the gospel that I love to sing and lead.

Granted, we have some real duds in the hymn book and many choristers and accompanists that do further dmage to otherwise fairly good hymns.  But when led well and op to tempo, they can come alive and inspire more to sing.

Kristine touched me with her sentiments on November.  It&#039;s been my favorite month for many years for many of the same reasons she eloquently described.  Thoughtful post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Kristine dwells too much on her mother&#8217;s use of some of those songs from her childhood.  Granted, they are less than stirring or inspirational but benefitted me when I was a young boy.  It was &#8220;Count Your Blessings&#8221; and &#8220;Put Your Shoulder To The Wheel&#8221; that caused me to discover the love of singing in our meetings.  They were upbeat, had a certain lilt and meter that appealed to me then. But now as a very senior adult, my appreciation has been a process and we have many well written and arranged hyms of the restoration and of the message of Christ and living the gospel that I love to sing and lead.</p>
<p>Granted, we have some real duds in the hymn book and many choristers and accompanists that do further dmage to otherwise fairly good hymns.  But when led well and op to tempo, they can come alive and inspire more to sing.</p>
<p>Kristine touched me with her sentiments on November.  It&#8217;s been my favorite month for many years for many of the same reasons she eloquently described.  Thoughtful post.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilfried</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilfried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much, Kristine. 

In my home country the first days of November are the days people go to the cemeteries to put flowers on the graves of their beloved ones. No American Halloween around (except for the commercial push to get it into the culture). And so indeed, as you mention, &quot;All Saintsâ€™ Day is observed by many Christian churches as a day to remember the lives of virtuous people and rededicate onesself to following their example.&quot; But then America has (moreover) its Thanksgiving, which we do not have in Europe. It is, to me, gratitude for the present, for family, for the living, and the expression of hope for the future. I am grateful both for the Catholic All Saintsâ€™ Day and for Thanksgiving. 

November, indeed, is a special month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much, Kristine. </p>
<p>In my home country the first days of November are the days people go to the cemeteries to put flowers on the graves of their beloved ones. No American Halloween around (except for the commercial push to get it into the culture). And so indeed, as you mention, &#8220;All Saintsâ€™ Day is observed by many Christian churches as a day to remember the lives of virtuous people and rededicate onesself to following their example.&#8221; But then America has (moreover) its Thanksgiving, which we do not have in Europe. It is, to me, gratitude for the present, for family, for the living, and the expression of hope for the future. I am grateful both for the Catholic All Saintsâ€™ Day and for Thanksgiving. </p>
<p>November, indeed, is a special month.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine Haglund Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine Haglund Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell, I agree--I like most of those preachy, pedantic gospel songs (they aren&#039;t really hymns), at least most of the time.   Even the ones I don&#039;t like I can enjoy for their peculiar 19th-century charm.  And I&#039;ve probably exaggerated my dislike for CYMB for rhetorical effect.  And I think it&#039;s likely that it&#039;s the music more than the text that seems simplistic and annoying to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, I agree&#8211;I like most of those preachy, pedantic gospel songs (they aren&#8217;t really hymns), at least most of the time.   Even the ones I don&#8217;t like I can enjoy for their peculiar 19th-century charm.  And I&#8217;ve probably exaggerated my dislike for CYMB for rhetorical effect.  And I think it&#8217;s likely that it&#8217;s the music more than the text that seems simplistic and annoying to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Arben Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Arben Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A beautiful, poetic homily, Kristine; thanks for sharing it with us. 

I must admit, however, that I also am a fan of &quot;Count Your Many Blessings.&quot; I think you&#039;re right to note where it lacks in a deeper moral sense; it suggests that a remembrance of God&#039;s grace should come through positive thinking, though a listing all of one&#039;s goodies, through a kind of elision of one&#039;s present circumstance, rather than properly expecting us to exercise remembrance in the midst of the fulness of our discomfort, worries, and pain. Hence, as a hymn that seeks to put our souls in a right relationship it Gods, it&#039;s not all that impressive. Nonetheless, I like it. I like it because it has a tutelary, school-marmish tone; in singing it, you replicate a rather intimate, perhaps stultifying, but also humbling relationship, in which we all are children who need still have a lot to learn. Which, of course, is true. If all our hymns partook of such subtle authoritarianism it&#039;d be terrible, but I think it is no little blessing to belong to community that recognizes the need to sit itself down and give itself a talking to every once in a while. (This same applies to &quot;In Our Lovely Deseret,&quot; &quot;Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel,&quot; &quot;Have I Done Any Good?&quot; and &quot;Today, While the Sun Shines&quot;--though I wish they had left in &quot;there is not tomorrow, but only today.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A beautiful, poetic homily, Kristine; thanks for sharing it with us. </p>
<p>I must admit, however, that I also am a fan of &#8220;Count Your Many Blessings.&#8221; I think you&#8217;re right to note where it lacks in a deeper moral sense; it suggests that a remembrance of God&#8217;s grace should come through positive thinking, though a listing all of one&#8217;s goodies, through a kind of elision of one&#8217;s present circumstance, rather than properly expecting us to exercise remembrance in the midst of the fulness of our discomfort, worries, and pain. Hence, as a hymn that seeks to put our souls in a right relationship it Gods, it&#8217;s not all that impressive. Nonetheless, I like it. I like it because it has a tutelary, school-marmish tone; in singing it, you replicate a rather intimate, perhaps stultifying, but also humbling relationship, in which we all are children who need still have a lot to learn. Which, of course, is true. If all our hymns partook of such subtle authoritarianism it&#8217;d be terrible, but I think it is no little blessing to belong to community that recognizes the need to sit itself down and give itself a talking to every once in a while. (This same applies to &#8220;In Our Lovely Deseret,&#8221; &#8220;Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel,&#8221; &#8220;Have I Done Any Good?&#8221; and &#8220;Today, While the Sun Shines&#8221;&#8211;though I wish they had left in &#8220;there is not tomorrow, but only today.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: jp in lv nv</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp in lv nv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristine, can you please tell me where to find this quote of Donne&#039;s?  thanks, jp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine, can you please tell me where to find this quote of Donne&#8217;s?  thanks, jp</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Kristine.  I don&#039;t think I ever thought of &quot;Count Your Blessings&quot; as telling us how we ought to feel--its lyrics seem more in line with your idea of being grateful as an act of will, consciously forcing yourself to remember the goodness of God.  I guess, though, there&#039;s that part promising that you&#039;ll be singing as the days go by--maybe it leans a little too far toward the claim that &quot;gratitude alone will solve all your problems.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Kristine.  I don&#8217;t think I ever thought of &#8220;Count Your Blessings&#8221; as telling us how we ought to feel&#8211;its lyrics seem more in line with your idea of being grateful as an act of will, consciously forcing yourself to remember the goodness of God.  I guess, though, there&#8217;s that part promising that you&#8217;ll be singing as the days go by&#8211;maybe it leans a little too far toward the claim that &#8220;gratitude alone will solve all your problems.&#8221;</p>
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