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	<title>Comments on: The horse you rode in on</title>
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		<title>By: Julie in Austin</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-100233</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2005 02:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I opened comments so I could beat this horse one last time:

In reading the new bio of President Kimball, I learned something new:  GAs are not permitted to conduct civil weddings.  I thought this was interesting, given the discussion above about bishops performing civil weddings.

OK, the horse can RIP now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I opened comments so I could beat this horse one last time:</p>
<p>In reading the new bio of President Kimball, I learned something new:  GAs are not permitted to conduct civil weddings.  I thought this was interesting, given the discussion above about bishops performing civil weddings.</p>
<p>OK, the horse can RIP now.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Greenwood</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99789</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The horse you rode in on is dead.</description>
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		<title>By: LisaB</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99776</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 22:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very definitely meant to lump you in there Mike.  You criticized the stated cause of the characterization, but let the characterization itself stand.  In fact, you compounded it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very definitely meant to lump you in there Mike.  You criticized the stated cause of the characterization, but let the characterization itself stand.  In fact, you compounded it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99770</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>377 LisaB - &quot;MikeB and Confusedâ€“I think this is a very unkind characterization of celibate individuals-&quot;

Not sure you intended to do lump me in there, but I was critizing this characterization, not making it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>377 LisaB &#8211; &#8220;MikeB and Confusedâ€“I think this is a very unkind characterization of celibate individuals-&#8221;</p>
<p>Not sure you intended to do lump me in there, but I was critizing this characterization, not making it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99768</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 20:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B in 376 - I appreciate your response.  Your original post on this sounded like you were generalizing about all RMs.  I should have seen that it was based on your personal experience.  Sounds horrible.  Sorry it happened to you.  That having been said, I would not presume that a RM is gay simply because he&#039;s young and RM.  But then, I&#039;m pretty sure you don&#039;t really mean that.  It just turned out that YOUR RM was gay and hiding it.  Doesn&#039;t give you any consolation, but doesn&#039;t make all other RMs gay (or even a significant portion of them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B in 376 &#8211; I appreciate your response.  Your original post on this sounded like you were generalizing about all RMs.  I should have seen that it was based on your personal experience.  Sounds horrible.  Sorry it happened to you.  That having been said, I would not presume that a RM is gay simply because he&#8217;s young and RM.  But then, I&#8217;m pretty sure you don&#8217;t really mean that.  It just turned out that YOUR RM was gay and hiding it.  Doesn&#8217;t give you any consolation, but doesn&#8217;t make all other RMs gay (or even a significant portion of them).</p>
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		<title>By: Confused</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99747</link>
		<dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, most mature adults don&#039;t reduce sex to orgasms or confuse sex with God. Most normal humans have this need, and have it satisfied as far as they can. This is one reason why marriage is better than non-marriage, even if the marriage is (gasp!) outside the temple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, most mature adults don&#8217;t reduce sex to orgasms or confuse sex with God. Most normal humans have this need, and have it satisfied as far as they can. This is one reason why marriage is better than non-marriage, even if the marriage is (gasp!) outside the temple.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeD</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99739</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh! It&#039;s not dysfunctional unless you believe that orgasm is the god of this world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh! It&#8217;s not dysfunctional unless you believe that orgasm is the god of this world.</p>
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		<title>By: Confused</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99736</link>
		<dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh! All I&#039;m saying is it&#039;s dysfunctional to be a 40 year old virgin--in or out of the church. I&#039;m just speaking out of experience and out of the knowledge I have of psychology and physiology, both of which I&#039;ve studied extensively. I&#039;m not making value judgements about fornication, I&#039;m just saying that it&#039;s better to have loved and lost... and it&#039;s healthier too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh! All I&#8217;m saying is it&#8217;s dysfunctional to be a 40 year old virgin&#8211;in or out of the church. I&#8217;m just speaking out of experience and out of the knowledge I have of psychology and physiology, both of which I&#8217;ve studied extensively. I&#8217;m not making value judgements about fornication, I&#8217;m just saying that it&#8217;s better to have loved and lost&#8230; and it&#8217;s healthier too!</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeD</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99734</link>
		<dc:creator>GeorgeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B But there is one problem. You really can&#039;t get yourself out of the church can you? You still have to have some connection with it. It is frequently so. We leave the church but the church doesn&#039;t leave us and we struggle with it. If you were really happy I don&#039;t even think that a heterodox Mormon site like this would have the slightest interest. I say Move Back since moving on doesn&#039;t seem to be working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B But there is one problem. You really can&#8217;t get yourself out of the church can you? You still have to have some connection with it. It is frequently so. We leave the church but the church doesn&#8217;t leave us and we struggle with it. If you were really happy I don&#8217;t even think that a heterodox Mormon site like this would have the slightest interest. I say Move Back since moving on doesn&#8217;t seem to be working.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie in Austin</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/09/and-the-horse-you-rode-in-on/#comment-99733</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2005 17:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B in #376:  My apologies for mistaking your gender.  I&#039;m also truly sorry for your past experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B in #376:  My apologies for mistaking your gender.  I&#8217;m also truly sorry for your past experiences.</p>
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