Comments on: The Tumbaga Pla-ates La-ay Hi-i-dden http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:57:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Costanza http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68496 Costanza Tue, 03 May 2005 01:23:32 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68496 Frank, you're right. What I meant was that I wear it when the "horses" pull my "chariot." There, that should set things right. Frank, you’re right. What I meant was that I wear it when the “horses” pull my “chariot.” There, that should set things right.

]]> By: Frank McIntyre http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68405 Frank McIntyre Mon, 02 May 2005 12:32:46 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68405 They found something dated 600 A.D. and you think that this shows it probably wasn't around 350 A.D. when Mormon was writing his record? Perhaps you have an overdeveloped expectation of what archaelogy in the Americas can really say. In New World archaelogy, the argument from silence seems amazingly uncompelling. They found something dated 600 A.D. and you think that this shows it probably wasn’t around 350 A.D. when Mormon was writing his record? Perhaps you have an overdeveloped expectation of what archaelogy in the Americas can really say. In New World archaelogy, the argument from silence seems amazingly uncompelling.

]]> By: Gary Yates http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68401 Gary Yates Mon, 02 May 2005 07:14:24 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68401 Can you post your link or links because I havn't been able to find tumbaga earlier than 600 ad. Can you post your link or links because I havn’t been able to find tumbaga earlier than 600 ad.

]]> By: Blake http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68397 Blake Mon, 02 May 2005 05:48:09 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68397 Gary: So do you just have a knee jerk reaction against anything in FARMS? Just what makes you thing FARMS published about tumgaga anyway? Actually, the dating of tumbaga artifacts is not nearly as precise as you state. Google again -- you'll see that such aritifacts made of tumbaga range from 1 A.D. to 500 A.D. as the source origin. Gary: So do you just have a knee jerk reaction against anything in FARMS? Just what makes you thing FARMS published about tumgaga anyway? Actually, the dating of tumbaga artifacts is not nearly as precise as you state. Google again — you’ll see that such aritifacts made of tumbaga range from 1 A.D. to 500 A.D. as the source origin.

]]> By: Gary Yates http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68392 Gary Yates Mon, 02 May 2005 05:18:36 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68392 Forgot the "like" should read "In typical FARMS like B.S". Which is beside the point because they are sympathetic to the theory and use it to dicredit a book in their review section. Forgot the “like” should read “In typical FARMS like B.S”. Which is beside the point because they are sympathetic to the theory and use it to dicredit a book in their review section.

]]> By: Ben S. http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68369 Ben S. Mon, 02 May 2005 00:44:15 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68369 FARMS published the Improvement Era?! Who knew? FARMS published the Improvement Era?! Who knew?

]]> By: Gary Yates http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68367 Gary Yates Mon, 02 May 2005 00:31:47 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68367 In typical FARMS B.S. They conviently forget to mention that tumbaga isn't known to be in use until well after 421 AD. Thank God for google. If anybody finds any info contrary to this please post it. In typical FARMS B.S. They conviently forget to mention that tumbaga isn’t known to be in use until well after 421 AD. Thank God for google. If anybody finds any info contrary to this please post it.

]]> By: Miranda P.J. http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68363 Miranda P.J. Sun, 01 May 2005 22:44:17 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68363 And most importantly – Do you own any tumbaga kitsch jewelry? (Should you?) That's very funny, Kaimi. I think you've discovered the next great Mormon fad. And most importantly – Do you own any tumbaga kitsch jewelry? (Should you?) That’s very funny, Kaimi. I think you’ve discovered the next great Mormon fad.

]]> By: Frank McIntyre http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-68329 Frank McIntyre Sun, 01 May 2005 00:26:14 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-68329 Costanza, I know you are joking, but I don't know of any instance in the Book of Mormon where people rode the horses mentioned. Occasionally they were used to pull things, but ever never or rarely is riding them mentioned. Costanza,

I know you are joking, but I don’t know of any instance in the Book of Mormon where people rode the horses mentioned. Occasionally they were used to pull things, but ever never or rarely is riding them mentioned.

]]> By: Mike Parker http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/04/the-tumbaga-pla-ates-la-ay-hi-i-dden/#comment-66923 Mike Parker Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:39:14 +0000 /?p=2211#comment-66923 <b>Stone seeker (#16):</b> <i>If the plates were tumbaga and not gold, why didn’t Moroni just say so? Especially since he put the effort into convincing Joseph not to melt them down for cash.</i> There more ways than one in which the plates would be valuable. They would certainly have worth as artifacts, and Joseph could have put them on display, toured with them, or even sold them to a museum. Regardless if they were real gold of not, what Moroni (and the Lord) was concerned about was Joseph's <i>desires</i> -- did he want to do the Lord's will, or was he in it for the money? Stone seeker (#16): If the plates were tumbaga and not gold, why didn’t Moroni just say so? Especially since he put the effort into convincing Joseph not to melt them down for cash.

There more ways than one in which the plates would be valuable. They would certainly have worth as artifacts, and Joseph could have put them on display, toured with them, or even sold them to a museum.

Regardless if they were real gold of not, what Moroni (and the Lord) was concerned about was Joseph’s desires — did he want to do the Lord’s will, or was he in it for the money?

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