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		<title>By: sFW</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/03/ensign-marginalia/#comment-57868</link>
		<dc:creator>sFW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greenfrog,

I am aware of the source.  But another meaning is also &quot;a brutal ruffian.&quot;  In which case my use of &quot;insensitive&quot; as a modifier seems redundant.  &quot;Lout&quot; (meaning an awkward or stupid person) was actually my original thought, but then I decided that &quot;thug&quot; with its more violent image might actually better convey the idea.  
Perhaps if I had contemplated the origin of the word, I might have further delighted in the irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenfrog,</p>
<p>I am aware of the source.  But another meaning is also &#8220;a brutal ruffian.&#8221;  In which case my use of &#8220;insensitive&#8221; as a modifier seems redundant.  &#8220;Lout&#8221; (meaning an awkward or stupid person) was actually my original thought, but then I decided that &#8220;thug&#8221; with its more violent image might actually better convey the idea.<br />
Perhaps if I had contemplated the origin of the word, I might have further delighted in the irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Costanza</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/03/ensign-marginalia/#comment-57773</link>
		<dc:creator>Costanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the difference between annotating library books and doing the same with books at a bookstore? In both cases the books in question are owned by someone other than the person doing the writing. I suppose that bookstores are a business and the merchandise is being damaged and therefore will not be sold, while libraries are generally not businesses in the ordinary sense of the term. Still, it seems like a bit of a problem to be defacing the property of others, regardless of how insightful you may find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the difference between annotating library books and doing the same with books at a bookstore? In both cases the books in question are owned by someone other than the person doing the writing. I suppose that bookstores are a business and the merchandise is being damaged and therefore will not be sold, while libraries are generally not businesses in the ordinary sense of the term. Still, it seems like a bit of a problem to be defacing the property of others, regardless of how insightful you may find it.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Greenwood</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/03/ensign-marginalia/#comment-57745</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Greenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for saving the truculence for Frank M., Rosalynde W.  I can think of no worthier recipient.  And thanks for tooting the horn for celebrating Easter.  I think that a simple and obvious complement to making JESUS CHRIST bigger in the church logo, etc., would be to feature the death and resurrection on Easter.  I don&#039;t know if SLC ought to require this world-wide--I would hate to see the sort of ghastly, overdone meetings that might result if people thought they &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; to put on an Easter program--but don&#039;t bishops have the authority to set the agenda they way they think best?  Come on, bishops, make us proud.

Also, with respect to &#039;leaving your father and mother, etc.&#039;:  The problem with Rosalynde W&#039;s contextual reading is that it doesn&#039;t leave any meaning.  Even if married couples continued to live with their parents and under their authority, there must be some sense, emotional, spiritual, devotional, in which they were supposed to &#039;leave&#039; their parents, right?  If so, I don&#039;t see why not living in your parents&#039; basement might not be the modern equivalent, given our different cultures and circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for saving the truculence for Frank M., Rosalynde W.  I can think of no worthier recipient.  And thanks for tooting the horn for celebrating Easter.  I think that a simple and obvious complement to making JESUS CHRIST bigger in the church logo, etc., would be to feature the death and resurrection on Easter.  I don&#8217;t know if SLC ought to require this world-wide&#8211;I would hate to see the sort of ghastly, overdone meetings that might result if people thought they <i>had</i> to put on an Easter program&#8211;but don&#8217;t bishops have the authority to set the agenda they way they think best?  Come on, bishops, make us proud.</p>
<p>Also, with respect to &#8216;leaving your father and mother, etc.&#8217;:  The problem with Rosalynde W&#8217;s contextual reading is that it doesn&#8217;t leave any meaning.  Even if married couples continued to live with their parents and under their authority, there must be some sense, emotional, spiritual, devotional, in which they were supposed to &#8216;leave&#8217; their parents, right?  If so, I don&#8217;t see why not living in your parents&#8217; basement might not be the modern equivalent, given our different cultures and circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfrog</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/03/ensign-marginalia/#comment-57729</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Checking the ratio and opining that certain advice is directed mostly to women – Call me an insensitive male thug – but I think you’re being a bit hypersensitive.&lt;/i&gt;

From one obsessed with words of all kinds: &lt;i&gt;thug&lt;/i&gt; - from Hindi, a worshipper of Kali, the Hindu goddess caricatured in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Checking the ratio and opining that certain advice is directed mostly to women – Call me an insensitive male thug – but I think you’re being a bit hypersensitive.</i></p>
<p>From one obsessed with words of all kinds: <i>thug</i> &#8211; from Hindi, a worshipper of Kali, the Hindu goddess caricatured in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.</p>
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		<title>By: cinepro</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/03/ensign-marginalia/#comment-57718</link>
		<dc:creator>cinepro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 21:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lingerie: Feminine and Modest&quot;?  I thought you were joking, yet here it is!

http://tinyurl.com/5o69b

&quot;Ideas for making lovely lingerie are endless. This will open up a new and fascinating area of sewing at a fraction of the cost of ready-made articles, and no longer will you need to search for just the right gown that is feminine and modest.&quot;

No photos or illustrations though :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lingerie: Feminine and Modest&#8221;?  I thought you were joking, yet here it is!</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5o69b" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5o69b</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Ideas for making lovely lingerie are endless. This will open up a new and fascinating area of sewing at a fraction of the cost of ready-made articles, and no longer will you need to search for just the right gown that is feminine and modest.&#8221;</p>
<p>No photos or illustrations though :(</p>
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		<title>By: sFW</title>
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		<dc:creator>sFW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katie #30 and Amanda #48: Our Easter Sunday was a fast Sunday with testimonies centered on Christ.  I really enjoyed this Easter Sunday: Bishop cancelled our early morning leadership meetings so we could be home with family, that was the best Easter program we could have in my opinion. I wonder if there is no Easter broadcast for a similar reason -- let the family spend the time together (See Feb. 11 letter which is much cited authority in our ward).  
As for the whole eggs thing: we did that during the week and the extended family had a hunt on saturday -- so Sunday, there was nothing about the bunny or eggs, only the Savior and the Resurrection.  (The only disturbing part was from my wife who teaches sunbeams when she said she had decided not to include any eggs as part of her lesson because she didn&#039;t want to dilute the true message.  I applauded her decision without mentioning how alarmed I was that she had even considered the eggs).

Anna #40:  Were there any pictures with that August 71 article?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie #30 and Amanda #48: Our Easter Sunday was a fast Sunday with testimonies centered on Christ.  I really enjoyed this Easter Sunday: Bishop cancelled our early morning leadership meetings so we could be home with family, that was the best Easter program we could have in my opinion. I wonder if there is no Easter broadcast for a similar reason &#8212; let the family spend the time together (See Feb. 11 letter which is much cited authority in our ward).<br />
As for the whole eggs thing: we did that during the week and the extended family had a hunt on saturday &#8212; so Sunday, there was nothing about the bunny or eggs, only the Savior and the Resurrection.  (The only disturbing part was from my wife who teaches sunbeams when she said she had decided not to include any eggs as part of her lesson because she didn&#8217;t want to dilute the true message.  I applauded her decision without mentioning how alarmed I was that she had even considered the eggs).</p>
<p>Anna #40:  Were there any pictures with that August 71 article?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/03/ensign-marginalia/#comment-57475</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank McIntyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosalynde:  &quot;...I don’t judge the magazine’s gender messages by mere ratios alone, which would be a woefully inadequate measure...&quot;

No, reading this post I never had any doubt but that you did more on the gender front than mere ratios alone.  No doubt at all.  As for your discussed failure to be less gender hypersensitive, well that is probably a discussion left for another day.

On the Genesis quote, as I read it, the guy basically uses two quotes from SWK as his support for not living in basements.  The original Adamic verse is used primarily as an organizational tool for all the author&#039;s comments (leave, cleave, one flesh).  Given his careful SWK sourcing, it seems a pretty reasonable attempt to apply the scriptures to our day explicitly considering the words of modern prophets.  

Of course, had you not gotten all huffy/dudgeony I wouldn&#039;t have bothered reading the article.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosalynde:  &#8220;&#8230;I don’t judge the magazine’s gender messages by mere ratios alone, which would be a woefully inadequate measure&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>No, reading this post I never had any doubt but that you did more on the gender front than mere ratios alone.  No doubt at all.  As for your discussed failure to be less gender hypersensitive, well that is probably a discussion left for another day.</p>
<p>On the Genesis quote, as I read it, the guy basically uses two quotes from SWK as his support for not living in basements.  The original Adamic verse is used primarily as an organizational tool for all the author&#8217;s comments (leave, cleave, one flesh).  Given his careful SWK sourcing, it seems a pretty reasonable attempt to apply the scriptures to our day explicitly considering the words of modern prophets.  </p>
<p>Of course, had you not gotten all huffy/dudgeony I wouldn&#8217;t have bothered reading the article.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/03/ensign-marginalia/#comment-57460</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan Grow: sounds plausible, given the role of Coca-Cola in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.coca-cola.com/heritage/cokelore_santa.html&quot;&gt;commercial standardization of Santa Claus&lt;/a&gt;.

(I know, I know, this is an old web canard and a bit of a generalization. Spare the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp&quot;&gt; Snopes links&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan Grow: sounds plausible, given the role of Coca-Cola in the <a href="http://www2.coca-cola.com/heritage/cokelore_santa.html">commercial standardization of Santa Claus</a>.</p>
<p>(I know, I know, this is an old web canard and a bit of a generalization. Spare the <a href="http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp"> Snopes links</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about other&#039;s essentially Christless Easter meetings. I have suffered through a few of those myself. Our sacrament meeting today was ALL Christ and beautifully done. Joy and relief.

I have (as of this year) adopted my own liturgical calendar, based on a sweet little book from Deseret Book called something like A Christ-Centered Easter. It revolutionized Easter for our family this year. It will never be the same again. Easter bunnies and colored eggs no longer seem even remotely relevant. We did do the egg hunt and coloring - but AFTER all of the spiritual things had been done first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about other&#8217;s essentially Christless Easter meetings. I have suffered through a few of those myself. Our sacrament meeting today was ALL Christ and beautifully done. Joy and relief.</p>
<p>I have (as of this year) adopted my own liturgical calendar, based on a sweet little book from Deseret Book called something like A Christ-Centered Easter. It revolutionized Easter for our family this year. It will never be the same again. Easter bunnies and colored eggs no longer seem even remotely relevant. We did do the egg hunt and coloring &#8211; but AFTER all of the spiritual things had been done first.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan Grow: That is a very plausible explanation. But why &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; we get the Mothers Day memo (and the Halloween one, etc.)? And is there anything we can do to send some of those other memos back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan Grow: That is a very plausible explanation. But why <i>did</i> we get the Mothers Day memo (and the Halloween one, etc.)? And is there anything we can do to send some of those other memos back?</p>
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