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		<title>By: Mariah</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-106057</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Belated caution re post #17

Proposition: As no original manuscripts remain to prove the compositional language(s) of the Gospels; as there is no consensus amongst scholars or historians about the use of Greek in those originals; as most of the relied-upon, copied texts for the KJV are distant from the original authors by several hundred years; as interpretive choices in translation work, even by well-meaning translators, can, and often do, change meaning and intent (not to mention, â€œcorrectiveâ€? or â€œcorrelativeâ€? interpolations made by copyists and translators); therefore, it is questionable whether we know the precise words spoken by the Lord and whether the words have been accurately transmitted (e.g., compare the synoptic gospels with Johnâ€™s). And more to the point, we cannot know with certainty how the Lord meant His words--probably spoken in Aramaic--to be understood. 

Perhaps, in fairness to Peter, the safest course is not to take a dogmatic position either way, but to ask, as Spencer W. Kimball, â€œAre we sure of his motive in that recorded denial?â€?  And then, to not be afraid of uncertainty about the matter (see, Bruce C. Hafen, â€œOn Dealing with Uncertainty,â€? BYU Devotional, 9 January 1979, Ensign, Aug. 1979, 63-4 where he also addresses the Peter question).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belated caution re post #17</p>
<p>Proposition: As no original manuscripts remain to prove the compositional language(s) of the Gospels; as there is no consensus amongst scholars or historians about the use of Greek in those originals; as most of the relied-upon, copied texts for the KJV are distant from the original authors by several hundred years; as interpretive choices in translation work, even by well-meaning translators, can, and often do, change meaning and intent (not to mention, â€œcorrectiveâ€? or â€œcorrelativeâ€? interpolations made by copyists and translators); therefore, it is questionable whether we know the precise words spoken by the Lord and whether the words have been accurately transmitted (e.g., compare the synoptic gospels with Johnâ€™s). And more to the point, we cannot know with certainty how the Lord meant His words&#8211;probably spoken in Aramaic&#8211;to be understood. </p>
<p>Perhaps, in fairness to Peter, the safest course is not to take a dogmatic position either way, but to ask, as Spencer W. Kimball, â€œAre we sure of his motive in that recorded denial?â€?  And then, to not be afraid of uncertainty about the matter (see, Bruce C. Hafen, â€œOn Dealing with Uncertainty,â€? BYU Devotional, 9 January 1979, Ensign, Aug. 1979, 63-4 where he also addresses the Peter question).</p>
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		<title>By: Sheri Lynn</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-52281</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheri Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Ivan; mine was in response to yours. What you said has more credibility, or at least I assume so, being ignorant of Greek and so much more--but the other is being taught, apparently, in Institute classes as official doctrine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Ivan; mine was in response to yours. What you said has more credibility, or at least I assume so, being ignorant of Greek and so much more&#8211;but the other is being taught, apparently, in Institute classes as official doctrine.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Evans</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-52277</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristine, this is beautiful.  Peter is lucky to have a mom who can add so much meaning and depth to his name and baptism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine, this is beautiful.  Peter is lucky to have a mom who can add so much meaning and depth to his name and baptism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-48799</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 03:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheri -

for your comment, see my comment at #17.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheri -</p>
<p>for your comment, see my comment at #17.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheri Lynn</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-48782</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheri Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 00:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone told me once that they told her in Institute that Peter was COMMANDED to deny Jesus.  It wasn&#039;t prophesy, it was an order.  I don&#039;t see that interpretation in it, myself. I think it&#039;s a stretch. But she believed it was doctrine because they taught her so in Institute.

I haven&#039;t seen that anywhere.  But I&#039;m throwing it into the discussion in case someone else has been taught that and knows where it comes from.

Happy Birthday Peter!  And a spiritual &quot;swim at church&quot; (that&#039;s what mine called it, with awe in their voices, when they were littler.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone told me once that they told her in Institute that Peter was COMMANDED to deny Jesus.  It wasn&#8217;t prophesy, it was an order.  I don&#8217;t see that interpretation in it, myself. I think it&#8217;s a stretch. But she believed it was doctrine because they taught her so in Institute.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen that anywhere.  But I&#8217;m throwing it into the discussion in case someone else has been taught that and knows where it comes from.</p>
<p>Happy Birthday Peter!  And a spiritual &#8220;swim at church&#8221; (that&#8217;s what mine called it, with awe in their voices, when they were littler.)</p>
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		<title>By: David King Landrith</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-48773</link>
		<dc:creator>David King Landrith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Birthday, Peter! My own daughter turns 8 in just 2 weeks. I hope you end up remembering more about your baptism than I do mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Birthday, Peter! My own daughter turns 8 in just 2 weeks. I hope you end up remembering more about your baptism than I do mine.</p>
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		<title>By: kris</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-48759</link>
		<dc:creator>kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristine -- I will add to the chorus that this is beautiful!  But now I want to know the naming story ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine &#8212; I will add to the chorus that this is beautiful!  But now I want to know the naming story &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaimi</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-48755</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I have to ask --

Does he like to eat pumpkins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I have to ask &#8211;</p>
<p>Does he like to eat pumpkins?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-48749</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, we planned on naming our Peter Benjamin.  How he came to be Peter instead is a mildly miraculous story of its own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, we planned on naming our Peter Benjamin.  How he came to be Peter instead is a mildly miraculous story of its own.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben H</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/peter/#comment-48746</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy birthday, Peter!
I have a special affection for Peter the apostle, too. My mother for a time thought she would call me Peter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy birthday, Peter!<br />
I have a special affection for Peter the apostle, too. My mother for a time thought she would call me Peter.</p>
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