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	<title>Comments on: 12 Questions for Philip Barlow</title>
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		<title>By: Shawn Bailey</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-49735</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sub-part to Kevin&#039;s question in #5: whether or not the church eventually rejects the KJV as the official English language translation of the bible, from the Mormon perspective (your Mormon perspective?), what are the strengths and weaknesses of the other major English translations of the Bible currently available?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sub-part to Kevin&#8217;s question in #5: whether or not the church eventually rejects the KJV as the official English language translation of the bible, from the Mormon perspective (your Mormon perspective?), what are the strengths and weaknesses of the other major English translations of the Bible currently available?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-49733</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question for Prof. Barlow:  Many books that apply academic perspectives to LDS history or doctrine get sucked into the apologetic debate and get labelled a notorious book, sometimes criticized by one side and championed by the other or even sometimes attacked by both sides.  &lt;i&gt;Mormons and the Bible&lt;/i&gt;, however, somehow escaped that fate.  Like Melissa, I just stumbled across this gem of a book one day at my neighborhood Borders bookstore, in the general religion section.  Do you share the feeling that the book somehow slipped in under the radar, and if so why didn&#039;t your detailed account of how Mormons use or misuse the Bible strike a more responsive chord among Mormon readers and scholars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question for Prof. Barlow:  Many books that apply academic perspectives to LDS history or doctrine get sucked into the apologetic debate and get labelled a notorious book, sometimes criticized by one side and championed by the other or even sometimes attacked by both sides.  <i>Mormons and the Bible</i>, however, somehow escaped that fate.  Like Melissa, I just stumbled across this gem of a book one day at my neighborhood Borders bookstore, in the general religion section.  Do you share the feeling that the book somehow slipped in under the radar, and if so why didn&#8217;t your detailed account of how Mormons use or misuse the Bible strike a more responsive chord among Mormon readers and scholars?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben S.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-49724</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What advice would you give to LDS graduate students in the field of religious/biblical/ANE Studies?</description>
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		<title>By: Johnna Cornett</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-49719</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnna Cornett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The D&amp;C, PofG, and BofM are intertextual with the KJV Bible, but lots of us don&#039;t realize it because we don&#039;t recognize the Biblical phrasing as quotes and miss the dialogue between the books.  Particularly we don&#039;t give much time to the New Testament epistles in our curriculum, which is the part of the Bible with the strongest connections to Book of Mormon an D&amp;C.  Has the emphasis on reading the Book of Mormon in the last 20 years resulted in a weakness in knowing the Bible, which undermines our understanding of all scripture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The D&#038;C, PofG, and BofM are intertextual with the KJV Bible, but lots of us don&#8217;t realize it because we don&#8217;t recognize the Biblical phrasing as quotes and miss the dialogue between the books.  Particularly we don&#8217;t give much time to the New Testament epistles in our curriculum, which is the part of the Bible with the strongest connections to Book of Mormon an D&#038;C.  Has the emphasis on reading the Book of Mormon in the last 20 years resulted in a weakness in knowing the Bible, which undermines our understanding of all scripture?</p>
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		<title>By: Last_lemming</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-49666</link>
		<dc:creator>Last_lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark,

I think your memory is a little off.  The flier contained the two visions canonized as part of the PoGP in 1976.  Those two sections were moved to the D&amp;C in the 1981 edition.  Joseph Smith- Matthew was in the PoGP prior to 1981, although under a slightly different name (which I don&#039;t remember).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark,</p>
<p>I think your memory is a little off.  The flier contained the two visions canonized as part of the PoGP in 1976.  Those two sections were moved to the D&#038;C in the 1981 edition.  Joseph Smith- Matthew was in the PoGP prior to 1981, although under a slightly different name (which I don&#8217;t remember).</p>
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		<title>By: Ben H</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-49557</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are some research projects you would like to see taken up by Mormon scholars in the near future?</description>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-49555</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I remember right, a footnote in _Mormons and the Bible_ discusses the rare/anomalous instances when Mormon biblical or related scholarship was praised/well-respected/taken seriously as scholarship and not overt apologetics (Nibley was one that passed this test). In your view, how are things looking these days for rigorous biblical scholarship by Latter-day Saints?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I remember right, a footnote in _Mormons and the Bible_ discusses the rare/anomalous instances when Mormon biblical or related scholarship was praised/well-respected/taken seriously as scholarship and not overt apologetics (Nibley was one that passed this test). In your view, how are things looking these days for rigorous biblical scholarship by Latter-day Saints?</p>
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		<title>By: "Anne"</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-48568</link>
		<dc:creator>"Anne"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am excited that Brother Barlow, one of my old Institute of Religion Instructors, is on “Times and Seasons” to accept questions.  I loved his book, “A Thoughtful Faith: Essays on Belief by Mormon Scholars”.  This book was a godsend to me as I have been a skeptic … perhaps a “Liahona Mormon” since my teen years.

With 2005 being the bicentennial of Joseph Smith’s birth, the church’s curriculum seems to be especially focused on the restoration.  Over the years, I have noticed that much of the official church curriculum includes very bland histories.   A quick glance at the materials available for teaching in church this year reveals a similar pattern.

Recently, I have read “Mormon Enigma” about Emma Hale Smith and “In Sacred Loneliness” about Joseph Smith’s plural wives.  I found these books fascinating and felt they portrayed early LDS women as strong, faithful, and multi-dimensional.  These books also detail aspects and perspectives of Joseph Smith’s life that are never mentioned in church sponsored classes.  As I continue my personal study, I find that there appears to be more books (“New Mormon History”) and publications available to the college-aged student.  The explosion of the Internet has also made different views and perspectives available  instantaneously.  As an example, as an undergraduate, I had to go to my university’s library to look through the back issues of “Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought”.  Today, I can look for an article on a topic of interest on the “Dialogue” website and then read the back issue through a link to the U. of Utah collections link.

As I have read ME, ISL and Dialogue articles, my response has been continued skepticism of church lessons… thinking … what’s not being included in the lessons ?  I have had over 20 years to deal with my skepticism.  I’m concerned that a young person who comes upon all this stuff at once will be completely disillusioned with the church …. Perhaps concluding that the church and its leaders have been hiding its history.

That said .. my question(s) to Brother Barlow is (are) :

Young LDS students have the ability to access “New Mormon History (NMH)”.  How can we as parents and adult leaders incorporate NMH with church-sponsored lessons to create an environment of thoughtful discussion and learning ?  Is this even possible given the climate in the church following the recent disfellowshipment of Grant Palmer ?  Do you have examples of young people who were able to discuss NMH alongside official church history in a thoughtful manner ? What were the results ?  What would you recommend in terms of a church curriculum given the recent scholarship of NMH ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am excited that Brother Barlow, one of my old Institute of Religion Instructors, is on “Times and Seasons” to accept questions.  I loved his book, “A Thoughtful Faith: Essays on Belief by Mormon Scholars”.  This book was a godsend to me as I have been a skeptic … perhaps a “Liahona Mormon” since my teen years.</p>
<p>With 2005 being the bicentennial of Joseph Smith’s birth, the church’s curriculum seems to be especially focused on the restoration.  Over the years, I have noticed that much of the official church curriculum includes very bland histories.   A quick glance at the materials available for teaching in church this year reveals a similar pattern.</p>
<p>Recently, I have read “Mormon Enigma” about Emma Hale Smith and “In Sacred Loneliness” about Joseph Smith’s plural wives.  I found these books fascinating and felt they portrayed early LDS women as strong, faithful, and multi-dimensional.  These books also detail aspects and perspectives of Joseph Smith’s life that are never mentioned in church sponsored classes.  As I continue my personal study, I find that there appears to be more books (“New Mormon History”) and publications available to the college-aged student.  The explosion of the Internet has also made different views and perspectives available  instantaneously.  As an example, as an undergraduate, I had to go to my university’s library to look through the back issues of “Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought”.  Today, I can look for an article on a topic of interest on the “Dialogue” website and then read the back issue through a link to the U. of Utah collections link.</p>
<p>As I have read ME, ISL and Dialogue articles, my response has been continued skepticism of church lessons… thinking … what’s not being included in the lessons ?  I have had over 20 years to deal with my skepticism.  I’m concerned that a young person who comes upon all this stuff at once will be completely disillusioned with the church …. Perhaps concluding that the church and its leaders have been hiding its history.</p>
<p>That said .. my question(s) to Brother Barlow is (are) :</p>
<p>Young LDS students have the ability to access “New Mormon History (NMH)”.  How can we as parents and adult leaders incorporate NMH with church-sponsored lessons to create an environment of thoughtful discussion and learning ?  Is this even possible given the climate in the church following the recent disfellowshipment of Grant Palmer ?  Do you have examples of young people who were able to discuss NMH alongside official church history in a thoughtful manner ? What were the results ?  What would you recommend in terms of a church curriculum given the recent scholarship of NMH ?</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Goble</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-48560</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Goble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSM was originally a flier designed to fit into ones scriptures.  It was made part of the D&amp;C initially along with the additions there.  When the new edition of the scriptures came out it was put in the PoGP.  (Where I think it makes more sense, truth be told)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSM was originally a flier designed to fit into ones scriptures.  It was made part of the D&#038;C initially along with the additions there.  When the new edition of the scriptures came out it was put in the PoGP.  (Where I think it makes more sense, truth be told)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Barney</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2005/02/12-questions-for-philip-barlow/#comment-48549</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark,

I thought the JS-M was also in the pre-1981 PoGP.  But I must confess that was so long ago I don&#039;t remember anymore.

Jed,

You will note that the editors of the JST critical text cite me--negatively--in the footnotes to that introduction.  This is high irony, since they go on and take essentially the same position I took in my Dialogue article on the JST (an earlier article than the one on the Documentary Hypothesis I cite above).  I have long been an advocate of what I call the Matthews paradigm.  It&#039;s a long story, but essentially Kent Jackson just plain doesn&#039;t understand my position; he just had a bad (and superficial) reaction to it since an edited version of my Dialogue article was republished in the Word of God by--oh, the humanity!--Signature Books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark,</p>
<p>I thought the JS-M was also in the pre-1981 PoGP.  But I must confess that was so long ago I don&#8217;t remember anymore.</p>
<p>Jed,</p>
<p>You will note that the editors of the JST critical text cite me&#8211;negatively&#8211;in the footnotes to that introduction.  This is high irony, since they go on and take essentially the same position I took in my Dialogue article on the JST (an earlier article than the one on the Documentary Hypothesis I cite above).  I have long been an advocate of what I call the Matthews paradigm.  It&#8217;s a long story, but essentially Kent Jackson just plain doesn&#8217;t understand my position; he just had a bad (and superficial) reaction to it since an edited version of my Dialogue article was republished in the Word of God by&#8211;oh, the humanity!&#8211;Signature Books.</p>
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