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	<title>Comments on: Kristine&#8217;s Much-Less-Endearing-than-Rosalynde&#8217;s Christmas Music Confessions (which may nonetheless redeem themselves by being useful for aspiring classical music geeks)</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-34242</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just before I read your post, I posted something about &lt;a href=&quot;http://mormanity.blogspot.com/2004/12/christmas-eve-services-appleton.html&quot;&gt;musical devotionals on Christmas Eve&lt;/a&gt;. In my ward, it has become a wonderful opportunity for sharing the music of Christmas, and one of the best missionary events I&#039;ve ever seen. I&#039;d appreciate any related experiences regarding Christmas Eve services - something that I think is too rare in the Church. 

Christmas and music should be inseparable - just like worship and music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just before I read your post, I posted something about <a href="http://mormanity.blogspot.com/2004/12/christmas-eve-services-appleton.html">musical devotionals on Christmas Eve</a>. In my ward, it has become a wonderful opportunity for sharing the music of Christmas, and one of the best missionary events I&#8217;ve ever seen. I&#8217;d appreciate any related experiences regarding Christmas Eve services &#8211; something that I think is too rare in the Church. </p>
<p>Christmas and music should be inseparable &#8211; just like worship and music.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33935</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part II.  We want Part II.  Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part II.  We want Part II.  Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Hansen</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33932</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2004 01:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Rutter&#039;s &quot;Magnificat&quot;, a real fun piece of music.  And for contrast, J.S. Bach&#039;s &quot;Magnificat&quot;.  I also favor the &quot;Messiah&quot; recording by John Eliot Gardiner with the Monteverdi Choir and the English Baroque Soloists;  Gardiner restores all of the vocal and choral ornamentation typical of the period, the tempos are dancelike and the balance with the choruses is light, not your typical heavy elephant-galumpfing Motab sound.  See the link below and sample some of the pieces

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000040VU/002-6574684-0300825?v=glance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Rutter&#8217;s &#8220;Magnificat&#8221;, a real fun piece of music.  And for contrast, J.S. Bach&#8217;s &#8220;Magnificat&#8221;.  I also favor the &#8220;Messiah&#8221; recording by John Eliot Gardiner with the Monteverdi Choir and the English Baroque Soloists;  Gardiner restores all of the vocal and choral ornamentation typical of the period, the tempos are dancelike and the balance with the choruses is light, not your typical heavy elephant-galumpfing Motab sound.  See the link below and sample some of the pieces</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000040VU/002-6574684-0300825?v=glance" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000040VU/002-6574684-0300825?v=glance</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33927</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2004 01:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lux Aeterna was going to be in Part II--way to steal my thunder, Hans!  Your description is apt, and I heartily second the recommendation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lux Aeterna was going to be in Part II&#8211;way to steal my thunder, Hans!  Your description is apt, and I heartily second the recommendation.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Hansen</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33899</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My choice would be Morten Lauridsen&#039;s &quot;Lux aeterna&quot; (Eternal Light), especially the third section &quot;O nata lux&quot; which tells of the evening of the Savior&#039;s birth.  Lauridsen reaches a level of expression and emotion in this piece that transcends earthly surroundings.  You can hear samples of this piece at

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000006OF1/104-7186386-4532732?v=glance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My choice would be Morten Lauridsen&#8217;s &#8220;Lux aeterna&#8221; (Eternal Light), especially the third section &#8220;O nata lux&#8221; which tells of the evening of the Savior&#8217;s birth.  Lauridsen reaches a level of expression and emotion in this piece that transcends earthly surroundings.  You can hear samples of this piece at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000006OF1/104-7186386-4532732?v=glance" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000006OF1/104-7186386-4532732?v=glance</a></p>
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		<title>By: D. Fletcher</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33868</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christmas, for me, is British traditional music, carols and whatnot, partly due to Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol, Joy to the World, Hark! The Herald Angels Sing, etc. Hence, Boy sopranos. King&#039;s College Choir. Handel, Mendelsohn, Vaughn Williams, Britten, and Rutter.  And indeed, all of these have contributed to various collections of carols and Christmas-type pieces. 

The David Willcocks arrangement of &quot;O Come All Ye Faithful&quot; found in the Oxford carols books is the best one -- I play it on organ every year and literally wail.

By Vaughn Williams, &quot;The blessed son of God only,&quot; which is contained in Hodie I believe, is the most sublime chorale ever written, short of Bach.

And it&#039;s pretty interesting that Messiah, written as an Easter piece, is more associated now with Christmas. Because it&#039;s in English. English composers were... lacking... for almost two hundred years, between Purcell and Elgar. Handel and Mendelsohn, transplanted Germans, took up the slack in the meantime.

Here&#039;s what I&#039;ve accompanied in various programs this Christmas: Handel duet; Do You Hear What I Hear?; Lovers on Christmas Eve (Cy Coleman piece); Pie Jesu (from Lloyd-Webber requiem, done with organ/cello/violin); Christ Child (Hawley Ades); an aria from the Christmas Oratorio by Bach; and O Holy Night, a duet for Jenny and Darrell Babidge (originally a French piece).

Favorite Christmas recordings: Bing Crosby, Nat King Cole, Kathleen Battle, Barbra Streisand, The Bells of Dublin (Chieftains), JingleCats, the soundtrack to Scrooge, and various Messiahs.

I like the Messiah with George Solti and the Chicago best, for the quality of the choruses. For solos, I like Eileen Farrell and Martha Lipton on the MoTab version with Eugene Ormandy and the Philadelphia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas, for me, is British traditional music, carols and whatnot, partly due to Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol, Joy to the World, Hark! The Herald Angels Sing, etc. Hence, Boy sopranos. King&#8217;s College Choir. Handel, Mendelsohn, Vaughn Williams, Britten, and Rutter.  And indeed, all of these have contributed to various collections of carols and Christmas-type pieces. </p>
<p>The David Willcocks arrangement of &#8220;O Come All Ye Faithful&#8221; found in the Oxford carols books is the best one &#8212; I play it on organ every year and literally wail.</p>
<p>By Vaughn Williams, &#8220;The blessed son of God only,&#8221; which is contained in Hodie I believe, is the most sublime chorale ever written, short of Bach.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s pretty interesting that Messiah, written as an Easter piece, is more associated now with Christmas. Because it&#8217;s in English. English composers were&#8230; lacking&#8230; for almost two hundred years, between Purcell and Elgar. Handel and Mendelsohn, transplanted Germans, took up the slack in the meantime.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve accompanied in various programs this Christmas: Handel duet; Do You Hear What I Hear?; Lovers on Christmas Eve (Cy Coleman piece); Pie Jesu (from Lloyd-Webber requiem, done with organ/cello/violin); Christ Child (Hawley Ades); an aria from the Christmas Oratorio by Bach; and O Holy Night, a duet for Jenny and Darrell Babidge (originally a French piece).</p>
<p>Favorite Christmas recordings: Bing Crosby, Nat King Cole, Kathleen Battle, Barbra Streisand, The Bells of Dublin (Chieftains), JingleCats, the soundtrack to Scrooge, and various Messiahs.</p>
<p>I like the Messiah with George Solti and the Chicago best, for the quality of the choruses. For solos, I like Eileen Farrell and Martha Lipton on the MoTab version with Eugene Ormandy and the Philadelphia.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosalynde Welch</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33856</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosalynde Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bryce--HOW DID YOU KNOW! (I thought I doctored my bio photo!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bryce&#8211;HOW DID YOU KNOW! (I thought I doctored my bio photo!)</p>
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		<title>By: Kristine</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33842</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, Rosalynde--the cheese thread is scaring me, and I love Nutcracker, too.  I took Louisa to see it for the first time a couple of weeks ago--bliss!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Rosalynde&#8211;the cheese thread is scaring me, and I love Nutcracker, too.  I took Louisa to see it for the first time a couple of weeks ago&#8211;bliss!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce I</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33840</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosalynde --

As long as you&#039;re not a &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?q=unibrow&amp;hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;c2coff=1&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wi&quot;&gt;unibrow&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosalynde &#8211;</p>
<p>As long as you&#8217;re not a <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=unibrow&#038;hl=en&#038;lr=&#038;c2coff=1&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;sa=N&#038;tab=wi">unibrow</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosalynde Welch</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2004/12/kristines-much-less-endearing-than-rosalyndes-christmas-music-confessions-which-may-redeem-themselves-by-being-useful-for-aspiring-classical-music-geeks/#comment-33836</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosalynde Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristine, between this thread and Kaimi&#039;s cheese thread, I&#039;ve come to realize that I&#039;m a true middlebrow, with highbrow notes and a few lowbrow undertones. 

On Sunday I&#039;m going to hear the King&#039;s College Choir in concert, and they&#039;ll do Britten&#039;s &quot;Ceremony.&quot; I&#039;ve only heard it (the piece; the choir I&#039;ve never heard) live once before, and I&#039;m excited to hear it again. I love a number of King&#039;s College Choir Christmas discs. There&#039;s also a Placido Domingo Christmas recording that I grew up with and love, although most of the pieces are not classical--there&#039;s one in particular, &quot;Long Time Ago in Bethlehem,&quot; that means Christmas to me. And I love the butchered stake Messiah sing along--we do our own family version every year, and butcher it even more sorely, but it&#039;s always a highlight of the season. 

And let&#039;s not forget lowbrow classical music (not a contradiction in terms). Elena discovered &quot;The Nutcracker&quot; this year, and listens to it every night as she falls asleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristine, between this thread and Kaimi&#8217;s cheese thread, I&#8217;ve come to realize that I&#8217;m a true middlebrow, with highbrow notes and a few lowbrow undertones. </p>
<p>On Sunday I&#8217;m going to hear the King&#8217;s College Choir in concert, and they&#8217;ll do Britten&#8217;s &#8220;Ceremony.&#8221; I&#8217;ve only heard it (the piece; the choir I&#8217;ve never heard) live once before, and I&#8217;m excited to hear it again. I love a number of King&#8217;s College Choir Christmas discs. There&#8217;s also a Placido Domingo Christmas recording that I grew up with and love, although most of the pieces are not classical&#8211;there&#8217;s one in particular, &#8220;Long Time Ago in Bethlehem,&#8221; that means Christmas to me. And I love the butchered stake Messiah sing along&#8211;we do our own family version every year, and butcher it even more sorely, but it&#8217;s always a highlight of the season. </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget lowbrow classical music (not a contradiction in terms). Elena discovered &#8220;The Nutcracker&#8221; this year, and listens to it every night as she falls asleep.</p>
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